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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Jinn died because Maul was younger and had more stamina. He wore Jinn down. You can see Jinn is worn out right before he dies.Maul knew what he was doing. He fought a retreating battle the entire time. He knew he had to separate them, kill the Master first, then deal with the Padawan. The laser gates and that room being there? Come on, bit too coincidental for me.
Once he had them separated by the laser gates, he went on the offensive all of a sudden. Again, bit too coincidental for me. Maul's biggest mistake was underestimating Obi Wan.
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Correct, arrogance too.
Originally posted by RobtardI should never have said "of course not", it wasn't sarcasm. Pre-suit Anakin never did anything impressive with the Force.
I smell sarcasm. But in case I'm wrong, he did that butt-hurt-force-scream that crushed around him and shook the building. This seemed to make Sidious happy.
Originally posted by Rogue JediTo be fair, those Jedi weren't that great. At least not when extra-movie awareness is included.
Arrogance was Maul's only weakness. He took on two Jedi FFS and no one gives him any love.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I should never have said "of course not", it wasn't sarcasm. Pre-suit Anakin never did anything impressive with the Force.
Just saying "pre-suit" is sort of a blunder,imo. As at the end of ROTS he was suited Vader, but he was still basically the same guy (minus parts) as he was right after he bowed to Sidious and embraced the DS, killed younglings etc.
Should really be PT and OT Vader. Unless someone wants to argue that being chopped, burned and encased it a robo-suit made him more powerful on those merits alone, which I don't think anyone would.
So excusing my rant above, ROTS Anakin at the end displayed a large amount of Force ability with the butt-hurt-scream.
I think it's farely retarded to think there's a magical difference in force ability between Suit Vader in the OT and pre-suit Anakin/Vader in the PT.
I've provided quotes in the other thread that says if Anakin would not have been injured in his fight on Mustafar, he would have beaten the Emperor. Not only is it clear what that means, we even have the official Ep. III video game showing us exactly what GL meant by that.
Little if any improvement in force ability occured with Vader from the PT to the OT. He was reduced to TK tricks that some of you are thinking are the best things he's ever done. Wrong. The best thing he ever did, in the force, was fight and defeat Dooku. Some could argue his killing of the emperor was his best force feat...but that's not really using the force if you stick to the films.
I'm not going to argue Vader vs Anakin here...
Originally posted by dadudemon
I've provided quotes in the other thread that says if Anakin would not have been injured in his fight on Mustafar, he would have beaten the Emperor. Not only is it clear what that means, we even have the official Ep. III video game showing us exactly what GL meant by that.
"If Anakin hadn't got all beat-up, he [B]could have beat the Emperor."
It is not guaranteed nor is any time frame given. However, considering the first part of that quote says, "You have to be either Mace or Yoda to compete with the Emperor." It is infered that Anakin's slaying of the Emperor would take some time.
And the video game is not a movie, nor is the non-canon ending even considered in the EU.
Wrong. The best thing he ever did, in the force, was fight and defeat Dooku. Some could argue his killing of the emperor was his best force feat...but that's not really using the force if you stick to the films.
When people talk about "force feats" they clearly are talking about actual attacks with the force not skills with a lightsaber. Hell even Dooku differentiates between the two, “It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force… but by our skills with a lightsaber.” So while that is likely his most impressive feat most don't consider it an actual "force feat" per se.
Originally posted by RobtardYeah I don't think Anakin knew what he was doing then.
Just saying "pre-suit" is sort of a blunder,imo. As at the end of ROTS he was suited Vader, but he was still basically the same guy (minus parts) as he was right after he bowed to Sidious and embraced the DS, killed younglings etc.Should really be PT and OT Vader. Unless someone wants to argue that being chopped, burned and encased it a robo-suit made him more powerful on those merits alone, which I don't think anyone would.
So excusing my rant above, ROTS Anakin at the end displayed a large amount of Force ability with the butt-hurt-scream.
Originally posted by Rogue JediWasn't talking about you, you don't frequent those forums.
No it isn't.
Originally posted by ares834Exactly! God I wish we could bring Bandon in these. He'd obliterate anyone else in these vs. Harry Potter and co. wouldn't stand a chance.
Agreed. Everytime some one brings up Anakin vs Dooku I immediately think "in teh z0ne!1" followed promptly by "Bandon solos" 😛
Originally posted by Rogue JediAlright then, let me rephrase it. I wasn't to you, you little pedant. There's enough of us from the SW forums to understand what I meant.
WTF difference does it make what forum you were talking about? You said, flat out, that SW is hard to talk about without bringing in the EU.It isn't. We do it here all the time.