Originally posted by carver9
My point wasn't to put Wolverine on Quicksilver level, it was to show that his speed is superior to Thors and that he is a true speedster (when he wants to be).How would you quantify this feat?
in general, I'd imagine something akin to bulletdodging, where it is safe to infer that the writers are saying "look, wolverine is faster than cyclops", not necessarily "ok, back in issue 56 we said Cyclops' eye beams are X mph, therefore this means wolverine is Y fast"
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Bill has the same properties as Thor powerset wise, that's why. What allows him to fight at translight speed is his Asgard originated powersource.
Bill is also a cyborg which means that he is "different" from Thor.
Bill and Thor does not share feats... its just that simple. They are not the same and they are physically different in so many ways that its pointless for them to even be used in the same sentence.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man and Wolverine are faster than Thor. Hell, Daredevil and Batman are faster than Thor.
I forgot. You think Thor's at his very best, like what, peak human? Lawlz.
Originally posted by carver9
Bill is also a cyborg which means that he is "different" from Thor.Bill and Thor does not share feats... its just that simple. They are not the same and they are physically different in so many ways that its pointless for them to even be used in the same sentence.
Haha what the f*ck? No one's going to be using Bill's feats for Thor -unless it's Skrank or something- but please don't try and pretend Bill's cyborg form lends him some sort of advantage over Thor physically. Heat has less negative effect on Bill, that is his one and only advantage over Thor. His not faster, his not stronger, nor is he a better fighter. So stop with the bullshit.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I forgot. You think Thor's at his very best, like what, peak human? Lawlz.
I forgot, you live in a fantasy realm where Thor actually has speed feats. Top end streets have noticeably better speed feats than Thor. Speedwise, Thor is Hulk, and Spider-man would dance around him like a statue.
Originally posted by inimalist
in general, I'd imagine something akin to bulletdodging, where it is safe to infer that the writers are saying "look, wolverine is faster than cyclops", not necessarily "ok, back in issue 56 we said Cyclops' eye beams are X mph, therefore this means wolverine is Y fast"
Wow...
Ok, what does this mean then?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I forgot. You think Thor's at his very best, like what, peak human? Lawlz.Haha what the f*ck? No one's going to be using Bill's feats for Thor -unless it's Skrank or something- but please don't try and pretend Bill's cyborg form lends him some sort of advantage over Thor physically. Heat has less negative effect on Bill, that is his one and only advantage over Thor. His not faster, his not stronger, nor is he a better fighter. So stop with the bullshit.
Then why bring up the Surfer and Bill argument then. When Thor replicates Bill feat, then you can use it as a speed feat.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man and Wolverine are faster than Thor. Hell, Daredevil and Batman are faster than Thor.
Doesn't seem weird that the God of thunder and lightning has combat speed and reaction times lower than any b-list street leveller? That he is super in every single catagory EXCEPT reaction time? And that doesn't sound bogus?
But i wont argue, this isn't about what he SHOULD be like, it's about what his FEATS say he is like. So for the Record Cassandra Cain is Faster than Silver Surfer just because, and she is faster than wonder woman because dancing in gunfire > deflecting with yur hands (wrists)?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Only ones off of the top of my head that are "as fast" are Venom and Carnage (who is faster). Not to mention he dodges Carnage without SS and is faster than Wolverine.
Both lizard and Puma have been stated as faster and vermin been stated as fast.
Wolverine has foughten and dodge carnage to. He also foughten venom 3 times. eddie twice and both times not only match his speed but stalemated him.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
, Wolverine, Robin, have "similar" speed feats. Doesn't make them as fast, Spider-Man's characterization is his speed. Not to mention he has better ones.
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Yea spiderman thing is his speed yes, and who was wolverine designed after again? oh that right spiderman, Oh wait what is one of his main attributes and was show cased he his first appearances? speed.
Spiderman does not have better ones at all. I play this game with you and you have never been able to prove that.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] said Spider-Man could break his neck, so what? Spider-Man always doubts himself.
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what does wolverine saying spiderman can break his neck have to do with speed?
Your ability to dismiss everything wolverine does is astounding.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] beat his bad guys? Again has nothing to do with speed and more to do with healing and plot devices.
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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Goblin, Venom, Carnage, Sandman, Hydroman would cream Wolverine on the forum.
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They would all beat Spiderman do asside from Goblin, who would not beat wolverine either.
Omega red would beast parker as would other of wolverines rogue..
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B]I made a thread about this. The vast majority of the forum agreed, except for 3 members... hmmm.
Am I supose to care what you and some random kmc came up with ina thread I never went it? yea I dont at all. And you have no idea what your talking about. Honestly you dont read wolverine at all and yet you make these statemates as if your some authority on the matter, and your not at all. I dont pull this shit ever and I own thousands I spiderman comics.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Superman and Flash thing was a similarity comparsion. The gap is bigger between Flash and Superman and absolute numbers since they are much faster, it's like 90 vs 150 and 10 billion vs 15 billion. Larger overall numbers but it got my point across.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
the end of the day speed is hard to quantify, which is proven by this never-ending argument.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I forgot, you live in a fantasy realm where Thor actually has speed feats. Top end streets have noticeably better speed feats than Thor. Speedwise, Thor is Hulk, and Spider-man would dance around him like a statue.
Thinking that Thor has speed feats means he lives in a fantasy world? This coming from someone who just said that Batman is faster than Thor?
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed10MarvelTeam-Up26.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed03JIM98.jpg
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I forgot, you live in a fantasy realm where Thor actually has speed feats. Top end streets have noticeably better speed feats than Thor. Speedwise, Thor is Hulk, and Spider-man would dance around him like a statue.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Thinking that Thor has speed feats means he lives in a fantasy world? This coming from someone who just said that Batman is faster than Thor?http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed10MarvelTeam-Up26.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed03JIM98.jpg
Are these suppose to help prove a point?
