DOS Doomsday vs Captain Marvel (Billy)

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Ah, sorry, I thought you were saying that me quoting that wasn't evidence since I wasn't posting the actual scan. 😮

But yeah, I'm not saying Marvel could kill Superman, I was just clarifying the debated instance.

Though I think we might be getting off topic here.

Do we agree that Captain Marvel was/is more powerful than Superman was in the 90s when he first fought Doomsday to a fatal standstill?

Ha, no worries! I probably should have worded it better.

Yeah DoS Superman wasn't really up too much. He seemed far weaker than he does now, CM is/was more powerful than that version of Superman IMO.

Doomsday

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Which was why I was clarifying the debated piece of evidence. 😛

and deny me the joy of tripping up Carver? How dare you, sir. uhuh

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman can't alter weather patterns

Umm.. yeah he can.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
and create storms through magical means

He can create storms, magic or no.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
can't charge his fists with magical energy

Well you can chalk one for CM.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
doesn't possess a form of clairvoyance and have the ability to instantly know various facts of a wide variety of subjects

He may not have clairvoyance but he does possess knowledge on a wide variety of subjects. He also has eidetic memory, and the means to process vast amounts of knowledge in a very short time. In his spare time he reads vast volumes of scientific knowledge that he's placed in microscopic script, he can put whole chapters in a single full stop.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
can't summon magical lightning bolts, can't alter his physical appearance though a sheer act of will, didn't become successor and keeper to the nexus of most of Earth's magical power, etc, etc. etc.

He may not have magical bolts but he has more versatile energy projection capabilities. As well as energy absorption: solar energy, electrical energy and geothermal energy being among the energy forms he's absorbed to empower his body.

Originally posted by Allankles
Umm.. yeah he can.

He can create storms, magic or no.

Well you can chalk one for CM.

He may not have clairvoyance but he does possess knowledge on a wide variety of subjects. He also has eidetic memory, and the means to process vast amounts of knowledge in a very short time. In his spare time he reads vast volumes of scientific knowledge that he's placed in microscopic script, he can put whole chapters in a single full stop.

He may not have magical bolts but he has more versatile energy projection capabilities. As well as energy absorption: solar energy, electrical energy and geothermal energy being among the energy forms he's absorbed to empower his body.

So Cap and Supes can both do stuff the other can't?

Glad we agree. 👆

Captain Marvel.

Do you guys think CM has gotten weaker or Superman has just gotten stronger since the 90s. I don't know I only pick up a DC book here and there. It does seem like Black Adam is stronfer than both. I did read his mini. He is ruthless.

CM wins,

DOS DD wasn't all that.

On a side note you guys think that since billy's power depend on his self image, he can amp based on this?

Superman's progressively gotten stronger since the 90's and so has Captain Marvel. By all rights, "current" (or closest to current, anyway) Captain Marvel was the new Wizard before Adam and Isis managed to prep for him and dethrone him.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Captain Marvel doesn't have better durability than Superman. Superman is > CM. Its one of the worst internet myths that they are equals.

Actually DC has gone out of their way to make them virtual equals.

Captain Marvel would kill him then say SHAZAM twice (Billy to Captain Marvel) and be back to new. No funeral needed.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman's progressively gotten stronger since the 90's and so has Captain Marvel. By all rights, "current" (or closest to current, anyway) Captain Marvel was the new Wizard before Adam and Isis managed to prep for him and dethrone him.

Thanks that character has always been interesting to me. I wish DC would sell the rights to Marvel/Disney comics. He would give them the Superman type they are looking for. I don't think he is similar to Thor either. Can you imagine marvel against Surfer, Thanos etc.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Thanks that character has always been interesting to me. I wish DC would sell the rights to Marvel/Disney comics. He would give them the Superman type they are looking for. I don't think he is similar to Thor either. Can you imagine marvel against Surfer, Thanos etc.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Thanks that character has always been interesting to me. I wish DC would sell the rights to Marvel/Disney comics. He would give them the Superman type they are looking for. I don't think he is similar to Thor either. Can you imagine marvel against Surfer, Thanos etc.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I wish DC would sell the rights to Marvel/Disney comics. He would give them the Superman type they are looking for. I don't think he is similar to Thor either. Can you imagine marvel against Surfer, Thanos etc.

Nah, they already have Blue Marvel to fill the heroic and noble flying brick niche.

Originally posted by MetalIsDead
Nah, they already have Blue Marvel to fill the heroic and noble flying brick niche.

I'd say something like "coincidence" but that'd sound racist, so I won't.

Originally posted by MetalIsDead
Nah, they already have Blue Marvel to fill the heroic and noble flying brick niche.

Yeah, but they don't use him. Blue Marvel was a fad unfortunately.
CM is well esablished and known.

Going with Billy. Or tossup.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He doesn't do anything... and he's black.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Yeah, but they don't use him. Blue Marvel was a fad unfortunately.
CM is well esablished and known.

CM in DC= peer to Superman, but when shit hits the fan, Supes is THE man.

CM in Marvel= peer to Thor/Hulk, but when shit hits the fan, Thor/Hulk are the ones to call.

Originally posted by MetalIsDead
True. But somehow I don't think going to Marvel would be a good idea for CM. They will job him to the next "big" villain whom later Hulk or Thor would crush. That's what they always do anyways, Hulk and Thor seems to be sacred or something, like Superman in DC.

CM in DC= peer to Superman, but when shit hits the fan, Supes is THE man.

CM in Marvel= peer to Thor/Hulk, but when shit hits the fan, Thor/Hulk are the ones to call.

Marvel would finally have there faster than light fighter. Also if they were to spend money on a character they would probably use him. But you maybe right they may push him to the side like they have done the Sentry.