Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
well 'doubt' would be a figure of speech thing.
Its unlikely that as he did so much fighting with the Russians in the 80s, that he'd have gone Russkie.But like you say: Who knows.
Actually, Russia's problems with Islamic extremists make ours look like nothing.
Originally posted by King Kandy
If he's an actual enemy of the US, all he'd have to do was prove he's still alive, and the US would be completely discredited.
Which is the biggest and most decisive nail in the "conspiracy" theorists coffin. That argument, alone, should shut them up. I do not understand why it doesn't.
It would be in Bin Laden's best interests to PROVE that the US failed to kill him and then mock us while doing it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Which is the biggest and most decisive nail in the "conspiracy" theorists coffin. That argument, alone, should shut them up. I do not understand why it doesn't.It would be in Bin Laden's best interests to PROVE that the US failed to kill him and then mock us while doing it.
it would be a greater blow to American power than 9-11
Originally posted by dadudemon
Which is the biggest and most decisive nail in the "conspiracy" theorists coffin. That argument, alone, should shut them up. I do not understand why it doesn't.
Thinking the exact same freakin' thing.
Though, I am somewhat supportive of the possibility that the man's been dead for years and the only reason they didn't admit that earlier was because it wasn't convenient until now. That's a whole nother can of worms though.
Originally posted by inimalistThat can't be it. I think Osama's smart enough to know that most of the CIA has played Metal Gear Solid 3 as part of their training requirements, and would therefore sniff out that triple cross instantly.
what if America really only thought he was their ally, but really he was a top-top-secret Chinese spy, and we finally got him
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
That can't be it. I think Osama's smart enough to know that most of the CIA has played Metal Gear Solid 3 as part of their training requirements, and would therefore sniff out that triple cross instantly.
what about a quadruple cross?
at what point are we just talking about figure skating?
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/05/army-mission-helocopter-was-secret-stealth-black-hawk-050411/
Their special blackhawk was nearly invisible to radar unfortunately armchair analysts say it would have blinded the pilot and couldn't produce enough lift to stay stable when landing.
It's totally cool that they blew it up afterward so no one could steal it 😎
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/05/army-mission-helocopter-was-secret-stealth-black-hawk-050411/Their special blackhawk was nearly invisible to radar unfortunately armchair analysts say it would have blinded the pilot and couldn't produce enough lift to stay stable when landing.
It's totally cool that they blew it up afterward so no one could steal it 😎
That lends itself to the idea that the US intelligence personnel strongly held the belief that the Pakistani government was compromised. Why stealth it? 😉
Originally posted by dadudemon
That lends itself to the idea that the US intelligence personnel strongly held the belief that the Pakistani government was compromised. Why stealth it? 😉
On the other hand power died in the area during the mission, which sounds like the Pakistani government killing the power for them.
both governments had said their was cooperation between Pakastani and American forces on the operation
I imagine it was kept mum as best as possible, but this type of operation would be almost unthinkable in a nation that didn't want you there, especially one like Pakistan, that isn't a completely failed state
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
On the other hand power died in the area during the mission, which sounds like the Pakistani government killing the power for them.
That could easily be accomplished independent of the government. In fact, it's standard operation for larger stings from SWAT teams in the US...but those teams get permission from the judicial system (or something...).
Originally posted by inimalist
both governments had said their was cooperation between Pakastani and American forces on the operation
Yeah, it would be impossible to do it completely autonomous from all areas of Pakistani government.
Originally posted by inimalist
I imagine it was kept mum as best as possible, but this type of operation would be almost unthinkable in a nation that didn't want you there, especially one like Pakistan, that isn't a completely failed state
I disagree. We magically discovered our "spy" routes over another countriy when theatplane crashed in China, remember? 🙂
'merica!
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yes, because if you aren't with Russia, you must be with the US.Actually, Russia's problems with Islamic extremists make ours look like nothing.
Indeed, my friend.
Not to mention that whole thing was going on and on and on for so long. Everyone pretty much,outside of Russia, forgot about Beslan - talk about a despicable acts of terrorism.