Originally posted by Q99
This very rapidly turns into the Void vs the JLA, most of the Dark Avengers are chumps (like, send Hal to handle everyone else, then join in the rest when he's done). And I think collectively they could handle it.
Not entirely Void is capable of taking WW, Hal and Superman at the same time.
Hawkeye could take out Aquaman or Hawkman, Daken could take out Batman....oh shit MM is there.
Originally posted by DeadlineBatman beats Hawkeye too. What's your point? He beats just about every hero or villain he collides with, regardless of plausibility. That's why people don't like debating the Batman, but instead debate 'normal human' vs other character. Because when we use what Batman actually does, he's a herald leveler at least.
Didn't I see Batman pawning Aquaman in h2h? Can't Hawkeye get him the eye? Meh guess thats the only thing you could get from my post.
Have you every read any Aquaman? The guy is powerful as shit.
Originally posted by Juntai
Batman beats Hawkeye too. What's your point?
I dunno did you notice how I put Daken up against Batman?
Originally posted by Juntai
He beats just about every hero or villain he collides with, regardless of plausibility. That's why people don't like debating the Batman, but instead debate 'normal human' vs other character. Because when we use what Batman actually does, he's a herald leveler at least.
I agree with you to an extent but not Superman.
Originally posted by JuntaiHave you every read any Aquaman? The guy is powerful as shit.
Only under JLA sue me.
Originally posted by Juntaino, we just exclude pis and take the limtis of batman's skills and equipment, and his defeats into consideration when debating him.
Batman beats Hawkeye too. What's your point? He beats just about every hero or villain he collides with, regardless of plausibility. That's why people don't like debating the Batman, but instead debate 'normal human' vs other character. Because when we use what Batman actually does, he's a herald leveler at least.Have you every read any Aquaman? The guy is powerful as shit.
Originally posted by Juntai
Aquaman is a monster. There's a reason he was on the big 7.
Fair enough.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
This is straight up Void vs the Justice League...Supes could rapidly defeat everyone else while the rest of the League keeps Void busy then come and join in the fight...
Justice League defeats Void btw...
Supes will be fighting The Void at the beginning of the fight.
Originally posted by Juntaiyeah, but not really.
Sure.I call it, "inventing my own idea of a character, rather than the one portrayed", but to each his own.
you see, batman's pis victories rely on his more powerfull opponents being abnormaly stupid or on absurd scenarios that are implausible even by comic book standards. furthermore, it does not really matter who batman defeated, what matters is what he actually did to defeat them and so we arrive at the conclusion that most of that crap wouldnt work on the forums against much more powerfull opponents unless his enemies take a drop in IQ. now, he can certainly come up with some good and plausible strategies for defeatign more pwoerfull peopel with prep, but without prep, claiming the shit he invents on the fly should be taken seriously in the forums is just nonsensical. he is not a herald level charatcer and cannot defeat one without a whole lot of one-sided prep.
Originally posted by Deadline
Not entirely Void is capable of taking WW, Hal and Superman at the same time.Hawkeye could take out Aquaman or Hawkman, Daken could take out Batman....oh shit MM is there.
Well, that's my point. One herald level wipes *everyone* except for Void, then there's an actual contest between the other heralds and Void.
Originally posted by Deadline
Supes will be fighting The Void at the beginning of the fight.
Not necessarily, the other Herald level Leaguers could fight Void instead.
But it doesn't really matter which one isn't on Void duty- if Superman is on Void, then Hal takes the rest. Or Diana. Or Martian Manhunter.
You've got three Heralds fighting Void and one wiping the rest of the DA then joining in on Void. All of them will end up fighting Void.
Originally posted by 753So tell me .. . . when Batman kung fu's Grundy down, takes down Aquaman easily in hand to hand, or kung fus and wrestles Lobo to the floor and starts choking him, it's because their IQ dropped, or because he had prep?
yeah, but not really.you see, batman's pis victories rely on his more powerfull opponents being abnormaly stupid or on absurd scenarios that are implausible even by comic book standards. furthermore, it does not really matter who batman defeated, what matters is what he actually did to defeat them and so we arrive at the conclusion that most of that crap wouldnt work on the forums against much more powerfull opponents unless his enemies take a drop in IQ. now, he can certainly come up with some good and plausible strategies for defeatign more pwoerfull peopel with prep, but without prep, claiming the shit he invents on the fly should be taken seriously in the forums is just nonsensical. he is not a herald level charatcer and cannot defeat one without a whole lot of one-sided prep.
There's a ton of these instances. I just named a few. So is it just a random one shot BS thing? How many times should he have to do it?
Originally posted by Q99
Well, that's my point. One herald level wipes *everyone* except for Void, then there's an actual contest between the other heralds and Void.But it doesn't really matter which one isn't on Void duty- if Superman is on Void, then Hal takes the rest. Or Diana. Or Martian Manhunter.
You've got three Heralds fighting Void and one wiping the rest of the DA then joining in on Void. All of them will end up fighting Void.
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Originally posted by Juntaithat is plain pis. in case you didnt get the point, it is bullshit that he does any of tha. let's take a trip down memory lane; cassandra cain, deathstroke, cain, etc. can oput BM down on his ass. lobo could shatter all of batmans bones with a sneeze. so yeah. it's pis and unnacceptable here given the rules.
So tell me .. . . when Batman kung fu's Grundy down, takes down Aquaman easily in hand to hand, or kung fus and wrestles Lobo to the floor and starts choking him, it's because their IQ dropped, or because he had prep?There's a ton of these instances. I just named a few. So is it just a random one shot BS thing? How many times should he have to do it?