Originally posted by 753
that is plain pis. in case you didnt get the point, it is bullshit that he does any of tha. let's take a trip down memory lane; cassandra cain, deathstroke, cain, etc. can oput BM down on his ass. lobo could shatter all of batmans bones with a sneeze. so yeah. it's pis and unnacceptable here given the rules.
Originally posted by 753No, but he can choke one out. lol. 😉
yeah, so batgirl has hurt batman in combat and proven she is a match for him. nice chat. batman is not a herald level anything unless he gets lots and lots of onesided prep, even then he is nowhere close to being the best preppper in comics.
Originally posted by Juntai
I think you mean to say it's SMvsFL, if that's still in the rules. But it calls into question, once it's done so many many times that it's nearly written into his character. Batman can even dismantle the whole Titans team if he set his mind to it. He's done it before.
When was this Juntai?
Originally posted by Utrigita
When was this Juntai?
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Originally posted by batdude123
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Originally posted by Juntai
Just like when you suggest they're all using it as the answer to the kata, and that is nothing remotely close to what it shows. They're all using it at completely different times, none of them in spar with the others.It just shows they were both taught by David Cain.
When you're suggesting is reaching pretty far, unless you have other evidence.
Yea, sorry, you're being deliberately obtuse. That Cassandra communicates through fighting was rather a central plot point, and it was shown matching moves exactly from the past.
Originally posted by Q99No, during this, they were both realizing the other had been taught by David Cain. He said he was good enough to stop him, she was testing him. He was having flashbacks because her and David Cain have the same exact style of fighting, and he's realizing that had he been with Cain, she is what he might have become.
Yea, sorry, you're being deliberately obtuse. That Cassandra communicates through fighting was rather a central plot point, and it was shown matching moves exactly from the past.
However, if it was all predetermined, and he knew the outcome of all of the moves, he wouldn't have been jacked in the grill.
Also, the final blow, which you claimed was 'the answer' to this 'puzzle kata' thing that seems like you made up on the spot, is not represented either, as it shows them performing it in different stages, not as part of the spar. Because the second Batman throws it, she, not Bruce anymore, is the one that has a flashback, and understands that Batman has been trained by Cain as well. Also, in the flashback, that move is the same move she used to tear out the guys throat in a flashback as a child in the previous issue- the day that she left David Cain and ran away.
I'm sorry, unless you have something else from the series that highlights what you're suggesting, it's just not what's represented here.
Originally posted by batdude123
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Yeah totally makes sense that batman closelined a speedster without looking. 🙁
Originally posted by batdude123
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Is that all of the titans?
Originally posted by Juntai
I think you mean to say it's SMvsFL, if that's still in the rules. But it calls into question, once it's done so many many times that it's nearly written into his character. Batman can even dismantle the whole Titans team if he set his mind to it. He's done it before.
Not sure about some of those cases but you can mention that in DC vs Marvel Bullseye stated that Batman hit harder than Daredevil, you can clearly see that the writers were going overboard. Theres also an issue I have with Batman and Superman were the writers tried to imply that Batman and Superman were equals. They're obvoulsy not but you can see with Batman he seems to get special treatment.
Its pretty much seems to me that the whole Batman and Superman series is complete pile of CIS/PIS. I kinda believe the more something happens (except street levelrs taking class 100 shots due to reasons) the more it should be accepted but I think Batman is an exception.
Regarding the Batman debate, I think it's telling of the differences between how power works in Marvel vs in DC.
Marvel compared to DC has generally more well defined tiers and less 'clutter', which is to say that unlike DC where you have your streets, a few metas, and then a shit ton of Heralds in Marvel you have some streets, lots of Metas, and some heralds.
But comics being comics we have lots of situations in DC where Streets come up against and do well against Heralds.
Anyway, enough rambling. The point I hope I'm making here is that I'm not so sure we can just dismiss Batman's showings against people who SHOULD be way out of his tier simply because he's a 'normal' human when it's pretty clear that DC thinks fairly highly of the capabilities of 'normal' humans.
Originally posted by Deadline
Is that all of the titans?Not sure about some of those cases but you can mention that in DC vs Marvel Bullseye stated that Batman hit harder than Daredevil, you can clearly see that the writers were going overboard. Theres also an issue I have with Batman and Superman were the writers tried to imply that Batman and Superman were equals. They're obvoulsy not but you can see with Batman he seems to get special treatment.
Its pretty much seems to me that the whole Batman and Superman series is complete pile of CIS/PIS. I kinda believe the more something happens (except street levelrs taking class 100 shots due to reasons) the more it should be accepted but I think Batman is an exception.
