Thor (movie) vs Superman (movie)

Yo.

Originally posted by FrothByte
4. Invulnerability

Superman got shot in the eye without flinching. Totally hardcore. Thor got zapped by Odin's spear, which although hurt him, didn't really do that much damage. But this is the same spear Loki used to incinerate Laufey, so still pretty decent showing.

Advantage: Superman, but only by a very small margin.

I agree w/every other breakdown, except for the summation here: I think Supes invulnerability is a much bigger advantage to him here, based on the same criteria.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Conclusion:

If it was a strong man competition, then Superman wins. If it was a race, superman wins. If it's a fight, Thor wins.

Honestly, that's the fairest assumption you could derive from the movies without resorting to comic book knowledge.

You can get a bit technical and say that Superman is too fast for Thor to hit, but then Thor can just call down his lightning to zap supes like it did Loki....

Now it wasn't stated how fast superman can move in the movie, but I do know that lightning travels at around 5 times the speed of sound... and superman didn't seem to be moving that fast.

the problem here is: Thors trying to fight/hit a mobile target who's much MUCH faster than *he* is, *atleast* as tuff as the D-armor, and capable of independent thought.

Im not gonna argue that Supes would spd-blitz Thor here, but its not like he'll be able to hold his ground in 1 spot and throw Mjolnir w/impunity either, and I dont see lightning bolts doing much to him either.

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by Newjak
The point I was trying to make with the punch is that they were Superstrong and their touch damaged Volstagg and destroyed Loki's armor. Thor took one of those to the face without even flinching. No signs of their ice touch hurting him. He would have to have some superhuman durability to take that hit considering what we already saw their touch do to things we already know are durable such as Volstagg and Asgardian Armor.

And I've seen it twice it may not have been him hurling it through the wall but it clearly shows he is not human level strength which I think was the intention there.

And Loki did get into H2H with a FG. It happened when he was fighting on and it grabbed his arm and his armor begin to freeze off in pieces. He killed him by what looks like a magical stab.

As for what the oother do.

We see Fandral and Hogun launch Volstagg. That is something no normal human beings could do.

We see Volstagg take a punch from the Destroyer and only get knocked into a car but is other wise doing better than Thor did after taking one hit.

Heimdall can see through the Nine Worlds.

Odin at the end was holding both Loki and Thor up with one hand.

Odin was able to lift a FG over his head and throw it.

Heimdall was able to throw a FG over his head.

We see Loki throw magic bolts of energy.

I think the point was made very clear that physically and in other ways Asgardians are not just like normal humans.

I dont think the "ice touch" –effect is an automatic one, since Odin himself wasnt affected when he held baby Loki, and as for those hits if they were "superstrong" then Thor wouldve/shouldve been moved far more than he physically was (not commenting on his Thors ability to TAKE said hit here). to use another movie as an example: we saw Spiderman deck Doc Ock right in the face (as well as land blows on his body) in S-M 2, and yet we *didnt* see Doc with a bloody nose or a broken/bruised *anything* afterward...........

I dont consider Loki getting his arm grabbed, and then him stabbing said FG to = "H2H"; thats a very VERY loose application of the term in my eyes, but I'll concede that it would count as "physical combat".

as for the list: I can square away the Loki bolts & Heim's eyesight away under just being "magic abilities", the rest still doesnt say a whole lot except for that bit of Odin holding both dude w/1 hand.............but even then I dont see that as "hey, I can juggle 10-ton boulders & crush coal into diamonds with my bare hands!", which is really wat Im looking for.

Tazer

Superman.

Frankly, there was nothing in the Thor movie that struck me as being in the same league as wounded-with-K-island lifting. Even Thor taking out the Destroyer so quickly...this Destroyer* did not seem anywhere near his comic level.

Plus, Superman also seemed faster.

*(Just to head off the inevitable thread: I think even Gort could take this Destroyer, ie, I really don't see Gort being "stunned" by that Sif-spear move).