Thor (movie) vs Superman (movie)

Originally posted by Mindset
Why are people using Superman 1&2 feats, carver said this is Superman from Superman Returns.

Which means we only use Superman Returns.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only genius who posts here.

Their all the same Superman buddy
Its not like this is an elseworld version of the original superman movies.
All those movies are in continuity for Superman returns

But if Carver had said we can only use feats from Superman Returns then you would be right but he didn't he said this is the superman from the latest movie ignoring the fact that only Superman 3 and 4 are out of continuity now.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
What does it matter since he wields his weapon the entire time. Whuile depowered he was getting hit by cars and survived a blow from the destroy albeit a bitchslap.

Superman's fighting skills were less than luthor henchmen and without the sun giving him access to his powers which Thor can effectively block out with his powers Superman's in for it.

What ? Movie superman was getting knocked around by manholes and struggled with trucks ? A bullet breaking on his eye isn't anywhere near impressive enough to bolster tanking Thor's hammer. I don't even need to prove Thor's strength since it's obvious every asgardian had super strength compared to humans and the fact Thor has his hammer at all times and tanked anything thrown at him the entire movie with ease.

Superman didn't show he can continually tank Thor's hammer he didn't even fight anyone with super powers the entire film. The guy was handily beaten up by human beings who through Luthor outsmarted Superman yet again.

Thor's hammer is as much a part of him as Superman's reliance on the sun for his powers. You don't argue Thor minus the hammer.

correction: w/o Mjolnir he got ktfo'd when simply backed into by a jeep, dropped by a taser, and he DIED when bitchslappd by the D-armor.

movie-S was being weakened by the massive amount of k-rock, not simply depowered; being weakened (and barely being able to stand) is completely different from having had yur weapon taken from you.

U cant prove they have spr-str since theres nothing in the movie which shows us that they have it. I can go back & look @ the movie again to re-verify, but I'll say right here there NO str-feats for *any* of them.....Thor included.

also, "tanking" means how much of an offensive assault U deal with coming AT YOU physically, and Thor didnt do anything like that in the movie. he did major dmg to everything he went after, but in this film hes not the brick like he is in the comics, and that makes a big diff in this matchup.

I cant say he would do it effortlessly OR infinitely, but I will say that him getting beaten up while being weakened doesnt actually negate my srgument OR strengthen yurs on the matter.

I can certainly make a argument for how effective a fighter/scrapper/tanker *he remains* in the comic w/o Mjolnir, and if it carries over (not that I want this to be so, let me say upfront) to his next showing, then we'll see how lackluster his movie version is by comparison.

Tazer

That was after his powers were removed and after he'd gotten hit by the truck in the desert.

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so tell me: wat power was his and which were Mjolnir's??

the movie doesnt make *any distinction* between the 2, so for all intents & purposes its not wrong to say that HE doesnt have any power; everything is tied up in the hammer, and thats all that got taken from him.

Tazer

We know the Asgardians have some level of superstrength and durability as shown when Fandral and Hogun threw Volstagg and when Volstagg survived getting hit by the Destroyer. It was also heavily implied when Thor was surprised that he couldn’t break the restraints.

facepalm

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Originally posted by Silent Master
We know the Asgardians have some level of superstrength and durability as shown when Fandral and Hogun threw Volstagg and when Volstagg survived getting hit by the Destroyer. It was also heavily implied when Thor was surprised that he couldn’t break the restraints.

even allowing for their "Fastball Special", that doesnt mean they can juggle cars; only that that 2 of them combined can hoist Volstagg far.........which is a feat that 2 C. America -class ppl could pull off comic-wise.

also, Volstagg didnt get hit by the D-armor, not directly anyways. he survived being blown OUT of that building he'd been blown INTO; we didnt see him take a direct hit.

as for the restraints, I looked at that as a nice skill showing from him tbch.

Tazer

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm

Then how did Volstagg go from flying towards the Destroyer to landing on a car's hood?

Originally posted by quanchi112
His powers were still somewhat in tact and like anything it doesn't translate into his power or his punches being island wrecking against his foes. If Ronnie Coleman outlifts mike tyson it doesn't mean he can punch with more force or ferocity than tyson.

Think what you want but if someone can benchpress a fricking island and has near light speed his striking force is not to be doubted, but since it isn't Thor with the feats lets just ignore it. right? Let us go by portrayals. What a joke.

Originally posted by quanchi112

What does it matter since he wields his weapon the entire time. Whuile depowered he was getting hit by cars and survived a blow from the destroy albeit a bitchslap.

The whole ordeal made the destroyer look bad because it couldn't even straight out kill a powerless Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Superman's fighting skills were less than luthor henchmen and without the sun giving him access to his powers which Thor can effectively block out with his powers Superman's in for it.

True Superman is a wuss when it comes to fighting skills. Having said that...
Wtf? Are you really implying that if you block the sun from Superman he will lose his powers? Whatever happens during the night? He did the whole recharge thing because of the kryptonite. Thor does not have access to kryptonite.

Originally posted by quanchi112

What ? Movie superman was getting knocked around by manholes and struggled with trucks ? A bullet breaking on his eye isn't anywhere near impressive enough to bolster tanking Thor's hammer. I don't even need to prove Thor's strength since it's obvious every asgardian had super strength compared to humans and the fact Thor has his hammer at all times and tanked anything thrown at him the entire movie with ease.

Gonna ignore the bus statement because it was discussed a while ago.

Yeah all the asgardians probably have super strength, but it is nothing compared to what Superman has shown. Thor tanked everything, true, but nothing thrown at him was shown to be anywhere near Superman's league. I believe it is unfair to assume Thor would just tank everything Superman throws at him.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Superman didn't show he can continually tank Thor's hammer he didn't even fight anyone with super powers the entire film. The guy was handily beaten up by human beings who through Luthor outsmarted Superman yet again.

LoL. Superman survived re-entry and crash landing on metropolis while being unconscious/comatose and possibly near powerless.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Thor's hammer is as much a part of him as Superman's reliance on the sun for his powers. You don't argue Thor minus the hammer.

True.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Then how did Volstagg go from flying towards the Destroyer to landing on a car's hood?

U mean when Volstagg managed to use his axe to take the brunt of that hit? 😉

Tazer

Originally posted by SasuOna
Their all the same Superman buddy
Its not like this is an elseworld version of the original superman movies.
All those movies are in continuity for Superman returns

But if Carver had said we can only use feats from Superman Returns then you would be right but he didn't he said this is the superman from the latest movie ignoring the fact that only Superman 3 and 4 are out of continuity now.

He gave a specific Superman with specific feats.

This isn't rocket science, people.

Also:

Originally posted by carver9
I said the LATEST Superman movie which is Superman returns. I don't care about what he did on 1&2.

I'll accept your apology at any time, thanks.

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Originally posted by Zack Fair
The whole ordeal made the destroyer look bad because it couldn't even straight out kill a powerless Thor.

actually, I think he *was* dying in that scene.......

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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actually, I think he *was* dying in that scene.......

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
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actually, I think he *was* dying in that scene.......

Tazer

He died. I meant he didn't just die once he got hit by it. He got to speech redeem himself and the like. Poor destroyer reduced to a plot device. Hopefully Thor gets to put his lifeforce in it in the avengers movie to take out an uber threat--if it even works that way--like they were talking about in the Thor movie thread in comic book movies forum.

Pretty sure Loki had his spirit in the destroyer armor.

Btw, how was Thor hit by the destroyer, it definitely wasn't a direct beam shot.

Originally posted by Mindset

Btw, how was Thor hit by the destroyer, it definitely wasn't a direct beam shot.

YouTube video

If Superman was on the receiving end of that he would have died.

Originally posted by Mindset
If Superman was on the receiving end of that he would have died.

Of course. Morgan Freeman is The Pressence and TOAA

Originally posted by Tazer
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correction: w/o Mjolnir he got ktfo'd when simply backed into by a jeep, dropped by a taser, and he DIED when bitchslappd by the D-armor.

movie-S was being weakened by the massive amount of k-rock, not simply depowered; being weakened (and barely being able to stand) is completely different from having had yur weapon taken from you.

U cant prove they have spr-str since theres nothing in the movie which shows us that they have it. I can go back & look @ the movie again to re-verify, but I'll say right here there NO str-feats for *any* of them.....Thor included.

also, "tanking" means how much of an offensive assault U deal with coming AT YOU physically, and Thor didnt do anything like that in the movie. he did major dmg to everything he went after, but in this film hes not the brick like he is in the comics, and that makes a big diff in this matchup.

I cant say he would do it effortlessly OR infinitely, but I will say that him getting beaten up while being weakened doesnt actually negate my srgument OR strengthen yurs on the matter.

I can certainly make a argument for how effective a fighter/scrapper/tanker *he remains* in the comic w/o Mjolnir, and if it carries over (not that I want this to be so, let me say upfront) to his next showing, then we'll see how lackluster his movie version is by comparison.

Tazer

Whether he died or not is inconsequential to powered Thor.

Then take a look at the bully scene where Superman can stand. One bully made him look weak and humiliated him in fair one on one diner combat. 😂

So the normal asgardians aren't super human despite them making a stand against the destroyer. Are you serious ? You think they are portrayed as humans. Wow. LOL.

Thor is a brick as he took damage from ice giants, loki, etc. without even really being hurt. he was amused unlike Superman who was always mano e mano per super threat.

It doesn't matter as his hammer comes to him and his hammer doesn't make him more durable. It's a part of his powers and his strength, etc. all amped compared to his human form when his hammer was taken away. Obviously.

Thor. Hard.