Originally posted by Existere
I mean, given that she's one of the few competent telepaths and telekinetics, in addition to being able to hang with all the top tiers when it comes down to MA ability. Plus her psychic knives can basically one-shot anybody with a normal human psyche.
exactly, and unlike the TPers, being highly mobile really isn't a counter for her powers...
I suspect speedsters could still give her trouble... could she react to someone like quicksilver fast enough?
EDIT: Is Mimic a Meta? because he would do well here too
Originally posted by inimalistIndisputable proof. 👆
So, lets start with the children in the Carnage Family:Carrion slips right through, though, he has some degree of intangibility, so that is understandable [Web of Spider-Man 103]:
Demogoblin appears to fall right through Cloak's cloak here, certainly not contained within it [Spider-Man 36]:
Doppelganger moves around too much for Cloak to contain [Web of Spider-Man 102]:
The Papa of the family, Carnage, escapes with no problem. [b]Oh look, Cloak is behind him too!!!!!
So, sneaking up on Carnage, as per on panel showings, is not going to give Cloak a win [Spider-Man 35]:And finally, Mama Shriek escapes with ease [Web of Spider-Man 101]:
Oh, and ya, wtfpwns Cloak [Spectacular Spider-Man 202]:
though, I suppose you can make up whatever you want to hand wave this away.... [/B]
Originally posted by Sin I AMThen you're thinking in the box.
This is cool, but i disagree with your multiple man one
Originally posted by inimalistWell, telepathy helps her reactions as she can see her opponents moves ahead of time. So if the speedster is fast enough for her not to process a response despite ninja reflexes and telepathy, then she's boned. Still, unlike most telepaths, she's not a glass cannon and can take a hit pretty well.
exactly, and unlike the TPers, being highly mobile really isn't a counter for her powers...I suspect speedsters could still give her trouble... could she react to someone like quicksilver fast enough?
EDIT: Is Mimic a Meta? because he would do well here too
She's basically a jedi.
Originally posted by Existere
Well, telepathy helps her reactions as she can see her opponents moves ahead of time. So if the speedster is fast enough for her not to process a response despite ninja reflexes and telepathy, then she's boned. Still, unlike most telepaths, she's not a glass cannon and can take a hit pretty well.She's basically a jedi.
alright, cool
🙂
Whats your take of a CIS off match between Psyloche and Blink?
Originally posted by inimalistEdge to Psylocke if she goes for instant telepathic shut down.
alright, cool🙂
Whats your take of a CIS off match between Psyloche and Blink?
It'd be a quickdraw scenario, and I'd bet on Psylocke's ninja reflexes before Blinks (which are still battle-honed and all that, so it'd be super close).
Originally posted by Sin I AMHow many dupes would you say there are here?
educate me then...and tell me how MM can defeat the maj of the meta tier
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
X-Factor #15
Jamie crushes all the HYDRA agents purely by multiplying. I can't even count how many there are. 100s? 1000< ?
Originally posted by Sin I AMAnd that was created in a rather slow process of rhythmically slapping, creating one dupe per slap.
couple hundred if not thousand i suppose
Still only occurred over the course of a few panels. Without CIS, that could have happened in a matter of seconds. Jamie taps his foot, and the first action each duplicate takes is to tap their foot, and so on. This process of turning kinetic energy into duplicates has allowed Jamie to shrug off damage in the past, and turn blows into fuel for ally creation.
Each kinetic impact creates more duplicates, including the force Jamie's hit with. Anybody that can be taken out by simply being overwhelmed can be taken down by a CIS-less Jamie Madrox. This includes much of the meta tier.
Originally posted by Existere
And that was created in a rather slow process of rhythmically slapping, creating one dupe per slap.Still only occurred over the course of a few panels. Without CIS, that could have happened in a matter of seconds. Jamie taps his foot, and the first action each duplicate takes is to tap their foot, and so on. This process of turning kinetic energy into duplicates has allowed Jamie to shrug off damage in the past, and turn blows into fuel for ally creation.
Each kinetic impact creates more duplicates, including the force Jamie's hit with. Anybody that can be taken out by simply being overwhelmed can be taken down by a CIS-less Jamie Madrox. This includes much of the meta tier.
ahh i see, i concur its a good tactic..but against say storm would be useless...agreed?
Originally posted by Sin I AMProbably, but it's a little hard to run that scenario in my head. I suppose Storm could flash freeze them all, but if they were operating with 'CIS off', they could behave like a hive mind and just tower thousands of bodies and become this unstoppable force.
ahh i see, i concur its a good tactic..but against say storm would be useless...agreed?
It'd be cool to see.
Originally posted by Existere
Probably, but it's a little hard to run that scenario in my head. I suppose Storm could flash freeze them all, but if they were operating with 'CIS off', they could behave like a hive mind and just tower thousands of bodies and become this unstoppable force.It'd be cool to see.
i was thinking more along he lines of suffocating them in a tornado, or pinning them against a wall and driving stop signs thru em...enev a million dupes couldnt survive a tornado
