Originally posted by abhilegendIgnore what? Hey I'm not the one grasping at straws here. I even showed actual MU index reference, but it seems you put blinders on and just keep yapping nonsense.
So just going to ignore everything? Sure thing bro.
Originally posted by abhilegendDouble standards? You funny man. Do you see me disputing your scan? You fail to understand my point. You are using a character for comparison who is known to have extremely wacky and joky feats. Think about it for a sec and let it sink in.
Why the double standards? Both are canon after all. But yeah, joke story is a joke story.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because its not meant to be taken seriously? Under the same writer a few issues later, Thor and hercules struggled to lift a few cars they were trapped under. I don't think DeFalco was writing Thor/Hercules to be planetary level in any of his comics.
Yeah, silver age hyperbole is great. Your point is?
But about this lowball.. At least get your facts straight first. You choose one that had them fighting an amped Ulik(who consequently got ko'd after getting electrocuted while falling from a building... go figure). Let's not forget Herc was being written weak at that period in time because of loss of confidence. Lastly it wasn't a few cars. It was described as "a collapsing mountain of twisted metal". In your drive to lowball, you lowballed a lowball. That's pretty pathetic. Again, I'm not surprised.
Originally posted by abhilegendRight.....
No, he doesn't.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Have you even read the comics you are randomly posting scans from? I guess not.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because celey has this habit of bringing up random Thor feats in threads where they don't belong.
Keep embarrassing yourself. Go ahead...
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
He was boasting to children who wanted to know who is stronger, he or Thor
http://13thdimension.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/9g-thor356.jpgYou should take it as seriously as this part of the story.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/thecorpulent1/Thor/Thor_1985_356_09.jpg
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I'm actually in agreement with Abhi on the "arm wrestling" issue. It was hyperbole. Ditto that other "shatter worlds" comment.
In terms of QUANTIFIABLE feats, Hercules clearly wins though. Towing Manhattan and later, during the WWH arc, holding it together clearly trump anything Juggernaut has done in terms of strength feats.
Originally posted by zopzop
I'm actually in agreement with Abhi on the "arm wrestling" issue. It was hyperbole. Ditto that other "shatter worlds" comment.In terms of QUANTIFIABLE feats, Hercules clearly wins though. Towing Manhattan and later, during the WWH arc, holding it together clearly trump anything Juggernaut has done in terms of strength feats.
Also you're the same guy who thinks the shattering of worlds in GoT was hyperbole. 🙁
Why am am I not surprised?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17MU index? What?
Ignore what? Hey I'm not the one grasping at straws here. I even showed actual MU index reference, but it seems you put blinders on and just keep yapping nonsense.
It specifically states that they only shattered the plateau. Good job destroying your own argument.
Double standards? You funny man. Do you see me disputing your scan? You fail to understand my point. You are using a character for comparison who is known to have extremely wacky and joky feats. Think about it for a sec and let it sink in.So does that story which was played for laughs.
Wow so you downplay the feat with a lowball? Why am I not surprised? Do you even understand the concept of high end feats, averages, and regular portrayals? You really, truly fail. Oh and the 90's is now silver age? Smh....Oh the hilarity. The marvel index already busted your claim.
But about this lowball.. At least get your facts straight first. You choose one that had them fighting an amped Ulik(who consequently got ko'd after getting electrocuted while falling from a building... go figure). Let's not forget Herc was being written weak at that period in time because of loss of confidence. Lastly it wasn't a few cars. It was described as "a collapsing mountain of twisted metal". In your drive to lowball, you lowballed a lowball. That's pretty pathetic. Again, I'm not surprised.Getting so defensive. On panel it was shown as some cars which Ulik threw at thor. But as usual you can't separate fact from hyperbole and somehow cars can make mountains of metal. Go figure.
Right.....
You really should ask yourself this.. 🙁I actually read the comics, not just take whatever the writer throws at the page.
Erm.. Did you look at the title of this thread? It's a Herc and Juggs, strength comparison. I brought up 2 high end feats that involve Herc. You're the one who came in crying foul just because of anal pain seizures. And we all know the reason..Which means jack shit in terms of comparison of strength.
Keep embarrassing yourself. Go ahead...Like you posting a scan which destroys your own argument?
Originally posted by abhilegend
MU index? What?http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Thor/av60_zps07e9a0c4.jpg~original
It specifically states that they only shattered the plateau. Good job destroying your own argument.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So does that story which was played for laughs.
Originally posted by abhilegendRead above.
Oh the hilarity. The marvel index already busted your claim.
Originally posted by abhilegendNo. Tide was turned at one point. Actually Thor started beating the utter shiet on an amped Ulik(dynamic strength and all 😛 )until Herc waltzes in thinking he could help. He interrupts the beating, gets tossed like a ragdoll onto an area with many vehicles that start to collapse on him. Thor immediately shields Herc from the "mountain of twisted metal". Ulik did not throw a single car let alone a few. And here I thought you read the story. 🙁
Getting so defensive. On panel it was shown as some cars which Ulik threw at thor. But as usual you can't separate fact from hyperbole and somehow cars can make mountains of metal. Go figure.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I actually read the comics, not just take whatever the writer throws at the page.
Originally posted by abhilegendWhy would the two feats I brought up for Herc mean jack shiet? Why do you care so much about it? Butthurt much?
Which means jack shit in terms of comparison of strength.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like you posting a scan which destroys your own argument?
To me this topic is pretty easy to figure out... Hercules is obviously stronger based on lifting feats, but that is to be expected, he's a hero after all. Bad guys don't have lift a mountain to saves lives.. they are the one causing the shit the heroes need to counter to save lives. So in Juggs case we can simply look at how's he's done against similar people and who's performed better. To me it's quite clear with his showings against various versions of Hulk, that Juggs is stronger. Maybe not a whole lot, but he's certainly performed better. That is enough for me to say he's above Hercules.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Considering it specifically mentioned the plateau breaking and discarded the hyperbole? Yes.
Are you serious or are you just purposely being dense?
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Do you know what a synopsis is? Do you think a synopsis contains every detail of a story? Like how in the 4th story of this issue Loki escapes the dungeon by hypnotizing the guards... Or how he killed Eldred by tricking him into summoning Surtur?
Yeah, you are just rambling now. Good job though, you destroyed the whole argument by yourself.
That's why it's called a brief summary. You're so dead set on refuting this feat you begin to start losing all forms of cognitive thinking. I'm starting to think this feat is too much for you to bear. As if your world would come crashing down.. 🙁
Quan, is that you?So no actual useful reply. Concession accepted.
Read above.
And few cars in a garage created a mountain in the middle of the city when even the most it was shown was not even a building level? Do you know how to look at a comic and not get carried away by narration? I can post a dozen such hyperbolic comments here, even flash has been stated to throw a punch which could alter the orbit of a planet. Not at speed, just standing and throwing a punch.No. Tide was turned at one point. Actually Thor started beating the utter shiet on an amped Ulik(dynamic strength and all 😛 )until Herc waltzes in thinking he could help. He interrupts the beating, gets tossed like a ragdoll onto an area with many vehicles that start to collapse on him. Thor immediately shields Herc from the "mountain of twisted metal". Ulik did not throw a single car let alone a few. And here I thought you read the story. 🙁
And you'd butcher any common sense for wanting Thor just like you are doing here.Apparently you don't. And even if you do, you'd just butcher it anyway. And to suit your own agenda. 🙁
Why would the two feats I brought up for Herc mean jack shiet? Why do you care so much about it? Butthurt much?Because random hyperbolic feats don't count and fights between characters shows the true strength level?
Don't start crying now.facepalm
