RotS Sidious and Count Dooku Versus Darth Bane and Exar Kun

Setting: Geonosian Arena.

The Sith Emperor and Count on one side.

On the other, Darth Bane in his peak of power, without Orbalisks and Exar Kun at peak of power, without Amulets.

1. Force

2. Saber

3. All out

Which duo wins?

😉

Bane and Kun would rape these two. It wouldn't even be fair.

Wawawait... who was before the cat?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Bane and Kun would rape these two. It wouldn't even be fair.

Agreed. Kun and Bane annihilate the other team by virtue of coming from an earlier generation of Force users. And as we all know, the Jedi and Sith arts merely get worse with each passing decade.

Teehehe

Without Orbalisks and Amulets team 2 can't win. With them you've actually got a fight on your hands.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
Agreed. Kun and Bane annihilate the other team by virtue of coming from an earlier generation of Force users. And as we all know, the Jedi and Sith arts merely get worse with each passing decade.

Teehehe

Judging by the NJO, LotF and FotJ books, I'd have to agree full-heartedly with you.

EDIT: Well, maybe just the practioners...

Originally posted by Nephthys
Without Orbalisks and Amulets team 2 can't win. With them you've actually got a fight on your hands.

Precisely what I thought. So I wonder who would win?

I pick ROTS team here, though that would change if Kun had his amulets and Bane his orbalisks.

Indeed, with them Bane would be able to comfortably tie up His Imperial Majesty long enough for Kun to lazorspam Dooku to death and then they could double team him.

But Dooku is Kun's equal, correct?

And Bane in his latest book has enough power and skill to take on Palpy, or would I be wrong?

(Didn't read it, LoL!)

I didn't read it either.

Exar Kun vs Dooku is ambiuous without teh amulet imo.

Perhaps this is a good match, then. 😉

I'd be interested to see what some of the other experts around here would think about it.

I can't remember enough about Kun to conclude how he'd fair against Dooku. I.... think he'd lose? Maybe? Thoughts guys?

I'm going to bed anyway, I'll sort this out in the morning.

Have a good sleep.

I'm probably going with team 2, regardless.

Originally posted by NowYouRemember
I'm probably going with team 2, regardless.

To be quite honest, attempting to substantiate Exar Kun as a Sith Lord without his amulet is impossible, because's he's always wearing it. And it gives him one hell of a power boost:

Unfortunately, I cropped it too close, but the middle panel states that Sadow's amulet goes to him as if he were its "rightful owner", recognizing his legitimacy to its use. It multiplies his rage and power exponentially. In addition to the blasts which are incredibly destructive, it seems to enhance his already impressive natural Force talent. Throughout the comics, he's seen activating it to boost his abilities similar to Sadow. Thus it's impossible to substantiate "Kun - amulet" because no such entity exists once he becomes a Sith.

Here it's stated via the omniscient narrator that both Ulic and Exar are master swordsmen, and neither can overcome the other in combat.

Here Exar Kun freezes the Republican senate room, a room filled with thousands of sentients of all different types. Only the chancellor and the present Jedi are excluded, for whatever reason. Then Kun uses the chancellor as a sock puppet, suspending the sentient with one arm and forcing him to dictate for the crowd.

Here Kun appears immune to the sever Force ability that Nomi used on Ulic with superb and apparently permanent results. He then kills the Jedi Master with a gesture.

I've avoided reposting battles against Vodo, since most of the SWVF thinks he's a complete tool with no experience or martial standing of note. In a nutshell though, Kun pretty much destroys every Jedi who stands before him once he becomes a Sith with ease.

I'd argue on his weapon proficiency and overwhelming command of the Dark Side of the Force alone that Exar Kun would be too much for RotS Sidious and Count Dooku. My Bane lore is a bit rusty, but I do recall him being prodigiously powerful with the Force as well and an incredible duelist, able to keep up with Kas'im despite the latter's change in dueling patterns.

I think when we say "No amulets", we're specifically removing his amulet "blasts".

Okay, so what's to stop Exar Kun from ragdolling Dooku or Sidious?

Um.

Force Storm? F*ck if I know--ask Gideon. I've always leaned towards the ancient Sith.

SM, with addendum by RB
Okay, so what's to stop Exar KunSidious from ragdolling Dooku or SidiousKun singlehandedly while the good Count performs fellatio on his more intelligent, more powerful, much more dangerous Master?