RotS Sidious and Count Dooku Versus Darth Bane and Exar Kun

Started by Stealth Moose16 pages

Pfft. Exar Kun's power can actively be powered up to, and I quote, "hundreds of thousands of times". The amulet actively channels his rage, even if the blasts aren't explicitly used, he can just juice up his Force powers.

Sidious, who spent at least thirty seconds of his professional career as a Sith flopped upside down over his own chair by a Force push, should not be a problem. Dooku is not going to be lauded as being any higher, obviously. QED.

Then Bane has sex with their corpses.

You do realize that Sidious' willing reception of said fellatio by Dooku makes your idol and favoured villain an extraordinarily disgusting old homo, right? Convince Old Ben to join and you got yourself a new Force technique: Jedi Lemon Party.

"Sith amulets are ancient relics created to focus and amplify a darksider's power [...] -- the Dark Side Sourcebook, page 66.

"the amulets radically enhance the user's telekinetic abilities[...]" -- DSSB, pg. 67.

"Sith amulets could focus and amplify the power of their bearers." -- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, Volume III, page 115.

"Each amulet, which is embedded in a jewel-encrusted gauntlet worn on the forearm, is made of crystals imbued with dark Force energy that focus the user's telekinetic power, allowing the wearer to unleash powerful attacks." -- Jedi Academy Training Manual, page 68.

edit: Sidious and Dooku were each man enough not to need such trinkets to be considered top tier. Without his amulets, good luck proving Kun's anything more than an amusing distraction for either one.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You do realize that Sidious' willing reception of said fellatio by Dooku makes your idol and favoured villain an extraordinarily disgusting old homo, right? Convince Old Ben to join and you got yourself a new Force technique: Jedi Lemon Party.

The Emperor is beyond sexual orientation. The good Count performing fellatio would please him, as a sign of Dooku's accepted inferiority.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
"Sith amulets are ancient relics created to focus and amplify a darksider's power [...] -- the Dark Side Sourcebook, page 66.

"the amulets radically enhance the user's telekinetic abilities[...]" -- DSSB, pg. 67.

"Sith amulets could focus and amplify the power of their bearers." -- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, Volume III, page 115.

"Each amulet, which is embedded in a jewel-encrusted gauntlet worn on the forearm, is made of crystals imbued with dark Force energy that focus the user's telekinetic power, allowing the wearer to unleash powerful attacks." -- Jedi Academy Training Manual, page 68.

[b]edit: Sidious and Dooku were each man enough not to need such trinkets to be considered top tier. Without his amulets, good luck proving Kun's anything more than an amusing distraction for either one. [/B]

LOLWUT. Sidious was splayed over that desk chair like he was about to get penetration from Yoda. He could have used some amulets then. Or perhaps just dignity.

And Dooku don't blow Sidious. There's no way he could pull LS and Gideon away to get any time in.

Sidious has... other body parts.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
To be quite honest, attempting to substantiate Exar Kun as a Sith Lord without his amulet is impossible, because's he's always wearing it. And it gives him one hell of a power boost:

This is why I don't like those old comics. In that era, being a powerful Sith was all about the bling and not about the user.

Sure, other stuff had sith artifacts, but Sith lords wouldn't become great on the strength of them alone.

Didnt DE Sidious disintegrate a lighsaber? Also I enjoy reading the argument about sidious not being the greatest because he was force pushed by the most powerful Jedi up to that time. Vodo's sole contribution was making a wooden stick l337.

What about that technique Kun did to Luke? Making Luke Skywalker powerless against you ain't to shabby.

manipulating black hole's durron had a looooot to do with that too.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Didnt DE Sidious disintegrate a lighsaber?

Didn't Kun's spirit desintegrate a holocron? Didn't Bane level a building?


Also I enjoy reading the argument about sidious not being the greatest because he was force pushed by the most powerful Jedi up to that time.

I'd like to have a source for Yoda being the most powerful Jedi up to that time not coming from Yoda's own mind (aka the quote in the RotS novel). After providing such a source, you may try this "argument" again.


Vodo's sole contribution was making a wooden stick l337.

Yeah.
Aside from training Jedi for more than 500 years, which includes - but is not limited to - almost the entire protagonist cast from the TOTJ era comics. And the narrator apparently had some reason to call him an "experienced duellist".

Originally posted by Borbarad
Didn't Kun's spirit desintegrate a holocron? Didn't Bane level a building?

You mean he hit a holocron while wearing the amulet? As I recall, Sidious just pointed at the lightsaber and turned it into dustk.

I'd like to have a source for Yoda being the most powerful Jedi up to that time not coming from Yoda's own mind (aka the quote in the RotS novel). After providing such a source, you may try this "argument" again.

I appreciate you letting me "try" this argument again, as you've been trying it for years.

Yeah.
Aside from training Jedi for more than 500 years, which includes - but is not limited to - almost the entire protagonist cast from the TOTJ era comics. And the narrator apparently had some reason to call him an "experienced duellist". [/B]

Goly gee, an experienced duelist!!! Well then that explains it. Btw, I love the double standards here. When I mention Revan and how he learned in the underground cities of Malachor, you want specifics. But it's fine for us to call Vodo awesome because he's an "experienced duelist". That's hysterical Nai🙂

the quote from ROTS is not from Yoda's mind.

Saying it is, and the comment about Dooku reagarding mace isn't is simply a matter of picking and choosing as you see fit.

Originally posted by truejedi
the quote from ROTS is not from Yoda's mind.

Saying it is, and the comment about Dooku reagarding mace isn't is simply a matter of picking and choosing as you see fit.

I believe I've already pointed out Nai's hypocrisy, now we get to watch him rationalize.

Sidious and Dooku win this.

But... Give amulets to Exar and Orbalisk to Bane and they win after an extremaly hard duel.

Agreed. I'd argue that RotS Sidious could overcome Orbalisks Bane in a difficult fight but Exar with the amulets would be too much for the Count hell he would be able to overcome Sidious.

A Bold Claim Approaches!

I might be inclined to agree. Sidious' superior speed will definately be a factor, but I'm just not sure he can fight Kun with teh guy spamming those amulet blasts like crazy. Those things are incredibly destructive, and spammable. Palpatines Force Lightning seems pretty impotent in comparison.*

*baaaaaaaaaaait!

no, i totally buy that, but it doesn't make Kun more powerful than Sidious. It means he has better weaponry. That's like saying Han with a Death Star Vs. Sidious on Alderaan.

Well I have no problems with that conclusion. But the amulets are a part of his standard equipment, just like lightsabers for Jedi or Boba Fetts jetpack. And taking his character as a whole, with the amulets, I'd give him the edge over Sidious (unless Gideon etc swoops in a blows my mind with a counter-argument).

it doesn't say much for Kun in the first place. I suppose it's possible that Sidious would simply take the amulet FROM kun...