Originally posted by NemeBro
Show me Magneto manipulating a relatively small amount of metal with the cock of his head to overpower a class 100 character. 😐This is all ignoring the fact that Thor seems to be able to magically remove and equip his armour...
LoL. Show me Thor resisting a class 800+.
You have no idea how he called in his chain mail. Probably was Odin's doing. But go on, show me Thor "magically" removing his armor.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL. Show me Thor resisting a class 800+.You have no idea how he called in his chain mail. Probably was Odin's doing. But go on, show me Thor "magically" removing his armor.
Near the end of Avengers when Thor was in the field he "suited up" by magically calling up his chain mail armoring for arms. You know it's magic coz the armor came out of nowhere.
You'll notice that all through out the first parts of Avengers he was in a sleeveless armor. So he's shown that he can dress himself up at will, you don't seriously think he needs to keep going to daddy to undress him?
Pretty sure we didn't see Thor suit up in Avengers. After he crashes like a dunce, we see him reach for his hammer, make a questioning look and then make a fist with his hand. Next scene we see Thor, he's cleaned and suited. The only two times we see Thor's armor magically appear/disappear is in Thor. When his father strips him and then when he regains his powers.
What's the argument now though, that Thor's going to strip himself naked mid fight? LoL. Reaching for a win.
Originally posted by RobtardNo he did summon his armor and we see it.
Pretty sure we didn't see Thor suit up in Avengers. After he crashes like a dunce, we see him reach for his hammer, make a questioning look and then make a fist with his hand. Next scene we see Thor, he's cleaned and suited. The only two times we see Thor's armor magically appear/disappear is in Thor. When his father strips him and then when he regains his powers.What's the argument now though, that Thor's going to strip himself naked mid fight? LoL. Reaching for a win.
After that scene we see another scene where Thor has the hammer raised as lightning is striking him and his armor starts to appear on him.
It's a if Magneto is using it to hold Thor back, if that's possible, then Thor will just get rid of it.
Honestly don't recall that scene. I'll take your word for it though.
Considering what you said above and what we see in the film Thor, Thor needs Mjolnir to call down his armor, but no where is it shown he can dismiss it away in kind. Even saying he can, he needs to raise Mjolnir and call down his powers to do so. That's not happening here where he'll be pinned, feeling the force of 1,600,000,000+ pounds of pressure, screaming and likely shitting himself.
Originally posted by RobtardWhy does he have to hold it above his head
Honestly don't recall that scene. I'll take your word for it though.Considering what you said above and what we see in the film Thor, Thor needs Mjolnir to call down his armor, but no where is it shown he can dismiss it away in kind. Even saying he can, he needs to raise Mjolnir and call down his powers to do so. That's not happening here where he'll be pinned, feeling the force of 1,600,000,000+ pounds of pressure, screaming and likely shitting himself.
Couldn't he just call the lightning down holding it by his side 😛
Why does he have to swing Mjolnir or jut it forward to fly? Why does he have to raise Mjolnir to call down lightning? Why does he have to make a reaching gesture to call Mjolnir to him?
Pretty much been dictated in Thor and Avengers that Thor physically has to move Mjolnir in some gesture to make certain aspects happen. You're also under the impression that he'll be thinking and not screaming and shitting himself under the pressure of 1,600,000,000+ pounds.
Originally posted by RobtardYou mean much the same way Mags does 😖hifty:
Why does he have to swing Mjolnir or jut it forward to fly? Why does he have to raise Mjolnir to call down lightning? Why does he have to make a reaching gesture to call Mjolnir to him?Pretty much been dictated in Thor and Avengers that Thor physically has to move Mjolnir in some gesture to make certain aspects happen.
Originally posted by RobtardYou only showed it once with the guns. And he still had to head nod and Thor is way stronger than that feat. So unless you have another feat of Mags doing something tangible that could hold Thor without having to use his hands than a little head nod and pedo smile isn't cutting it.
Correct and that's been covered several pages back a few times now. It's a good thing Thor's armor is no where near the mass of the GGB or even a couple of cars. He's shown to be able to manipulate smaller objects with nothing more than a nod and a pedo's smile.
Which you won't find because "EVERYTHING" else Mags did of note he used his hands.
From stopping Wolverine, to tossing cars, to lifting the golden gate bridge
Originally posted by RobtardSee you're think Thor has wind up, but against Mags no he just has to toss it. A simple toss nothing more.
Throwing a hammer is not faster than Magneto's powers.
If he goes that route, he could also just lighting Mags for a quick KO.
Either is just as fast as Mags raising his hand
Originally posted by Robtard
Honestly don't recall that scene. I'll take your word for it though.Considering what you said above and what we see in the film Thor, Thor needs Mjolnir to call down his armor, but no where is it shown he can dismiss it away in kind. Even saying he can, he needs to raise Mjolnir and call down his powers to do so. That's not happening here where he'll be pinned, feeling the force of 1,600,000,000+ pounds of pressure, screaming and likely shitting himself.
So what you're saying is, Thor needs Mjolnir just to undress himself?? LOL. That's the most impractical armor ever. Everyone should be able to remove/apply their own clothing by themselves. As it's shown that Thor's armor is magical, then it applies that he's able to dress himself up or remove it magically (he's already shown himself being able to dress up at will as seen in the Avengers movie).
You're the one who's reaching a bit if you keep insisting that Thor somehow needs help (either from Odin or Mjolnir) to undress himself. There's absolutely no proof of this.Ofcourse there's also no proof that he undresses himself, but considering that it's already shown he can armor himself magically, then the argument of "being able to undress himself" is way more plausible than "he can't undress himself".
As for throwing the hammer while locked in magneto's grip, who says he needs to hammer throw? All he needs to do is call forth lightning and that's it.
When Loki was beating on Thor with multiple Loki copies in THor the movie, Thor called down lightning while he was lying down on his back. So he shouldn't have any trouble calling down lightning with mjolnir at hip height.
Originally posted by Robtard
Correct and that's been covered several pages back a few times now. It's a good thing Thor's armor is no where near the mass of the GGB or even a couple of cars. He's shown to be able to manipulate smaller objects with nothing more than a nod and a pedo's smile.
It's not Thor's armor that he'll have trouble with, it's Thor's strength as he tries to fight Magneto over control of his armor. Holding down Thor is going to be way more difficult than holding down Wolverine.
And while I'm inclined to believe that Magneto's magnetic powers are possibly stronger than Thor's raw strength, Thor is still physically strong enough to make Magneto sweat and have to fight for control. As heavy as the GGB was, it was an inanimate object that wasn't fighting Magneto's control. Thor will prove a completely different challenge.
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's not Thor's armor that he'll have trouble with, it's Thor's strength as he tries to fight Magneto over control of his armor. Holding down Thor is going to be way more difficult than holding down Wolverine.And while I'm inclined to believe that Magneto's magnetic powers are possibly stronger than Thor's raw strength, Thor is still physically strong enough to make Magneto sweat and have to fight for control.
Holding down Thor will not be hard for Magneto in the slightest. He had a mild to medium look of constipation while ripping out and then carrying 1,600,000,000+ pounds across 3.7 miles, which ended with him casually standing and smiling(which is expected after a huge dump). Holding down Thor and crushing will be easy as diarrhea compared to that.
Possibly stronger? Seriously, which quantifiable feat(s) of Thor are you using to make you believe Thor could pull off the bridge feat? This always gets BS'd and/or cast aside.
Originally posted by Robtard
Holding down Thor will not be hard for Magneto in the slightest. He had a mild to medium look of constipation while ripping out and then carrying 1,600,000,000+ pounds across 3.7 miles, which ended with him casually standing and smiling(which is expected after a huge dump). Holding down Thor and crushing will be easy as diarrhea compared to that.Possibly stronger? Seriously, which quantifiable feat(s) of Thor are you using to make you believe Thor could pull off the bridge feat? This always gets BS'd and/or cast aside.
The ENTIRE bridge was made of metal, which means Magneto could control the entire bridge. Even if it was heavy, the fact that he had absolute control over the metal of the entire bridge, and that the bridge wasn't fighting back, makes this feat easier than containing THor. It's all about leverage. Magneto holding up the bridge was like him having a thousand hands to hold up the bridge.
Thor only has metal on his arms (and a few discs on his torso). Magneto will only be able to control those metallic parts ,not Thor's entire body. It would be like trying to carry a table by only pinching it from the corner.
But even if he was able to hold down Thor... Thor will then put his considerable strength against his armor, at which point he'll probably tear through his armor... unless you will claim that his armor is stronger than him.
Besides, there's still the point that Thor can just will his armor away anyway. So all this "holding THor in his armor" debate should just stop and we should just concentrate on debating whether Magneto can beat Thor without him controlling Thor in armor.
Originally posted by FrothByte
The ENTIRE bridge was made of metal, which means Magneto could control the entire bridge. Even if it was heavy, the fact that he had absolute control over the metal of the entire bridge, and that the bridge wasn't fighting back, makes this feat easier than containing THor. It's all about leverage. Magneto holding up the bridge was like him having a thousand hands to hold up the bridge.Thor only has metal on his arms (and a few discs on his torso). Magneto will only be able to control those metallic parts ,not Thor's entire body. It would be like trying to carry a table by only pinching it from the corner.
But even if he was able to hold down Thor... Thor will then put his considerable strength against his armor, at which point he'll probably tear through his armor... unless you will claim that his armor is stronger than him.
Besides, there's still the point that Thor can just will his armor away anyway. So all this "holding THor in his armor" debate should just stop and we should just concentrate on debating whether Magneto can beat Thor without him controlling Thor in armor.
The entire GGB isn't made of metal(I live about 10-12 miles form the GGB), it has shit loads of concrete and asphalt. The towers are concrete for one. But that is irrelevant, as Thor's armor having less mass means Magneto can concentrate his 1,600,000,000+ lbs of manipulating ability/force to a smaller area. eg he could just concentrate all his power on Thor's gauntlet(s) and watch Thor try and struggle to out-wrestle more power than he's ever faced before while laughing. Imagine someone tying a ton of weight to your wrist, you're not going anywhere.
The metal on Thor's body is spread out evenly enough where he could easily lock him down and then crush. LoL, Thor's not tearing through his armor. The point of wearing armor is that it's stronger/more durable than you.
Thor "willing" his armor away has never been shown of proven. At the best he needs to raise Mjolnir and call down his power to make himself naked. As seen when he called down hi armor.
No, we should concentrate of that fact that the Thor buddies keep BSing or dodging the fact that Thor doesn't have a single strength feat that shows he could begin to out-power even half the grip Magneto will put on his ass. Still waiting. While I'm waiting, I'll add that Magneto could use part of his power to lock down Thor and then start smashing and crushing him with metals from the building they're in, should be need more than the armor.