Thor vs Magneto

Started by FrothByte11 pages

From all the arguments given, it seems that Mag's only chance at this is IF he can hold Thor in his armor. What if the armor that Thor wears is the sleeveless one he wore in The Avengers? What then? Thor's costume is mostly composed of boiled/stiff leather.

What happens if Thor just rips his shirt off when Mags starts controlling him? Remember that Thor is very strong, and although I do think Mag's can exert more magnetic force than Thor can via physical force, Mags is still going to have to fight for it.

Like I said before, I'm giving this to Thor on the simple fact that Thor has a chance of fighting back and surviving Mag's most powerful attacks... whereas Mag's has no way of surviving Thor's attacks. The whole strategy of Mag's would fall on whether or not he can manipulate whatever metal is in Thor's armor to stop and maybe crush him.

even if mags holds him in place Thor can still flick his wrist with enough force to throw the hammer for a KO.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
So hulk punching (from a standstill) the leviathan causing it to halt in its tracks is not a great strength feat? News to me.

EDIT: but even if what you are saying is true. Lets say Thor could get crushed like this. You are saying Magneto is going to resort to an attack that took his full power and consecration right off the bat? It would only take thor one punch and metal being flung at him isn't even gonna slow him down.

In your mind, could Hulk rip out and carry the GGB? For the sake of argument, the bridge wouldn't break apart.

He's facing Thor and he's shown not to be a moron, of course he'd first try to lock Thor down instead of flinging some bit of metal at him.

Thor hits him with lightning 10/10.

Nope.

Originally posted by Robtard
In your mind, could Hulk rip out and carry the GGB? For the sake of argument, the bridge wouldn't break apart.

He's facing Thor and he's shown not to be a moron, of course he'd first try to lock Thor down instead of flinging some bit of metal at him.

In my mind yes and no.

Kind of like sheet cake. Of course I can pick it up one handed no problem but that doesn't mean it wont collapse because my hand isn't big enough to support the structure. The leviathan was huge and moving towards him. Hulk punched from a standstill and was only pushed back 6-7 feet at the most. Anyways even if im wrong it wont matter. Thor can still throw his hammer and or summon lighting to hit mags also. See idk if you are trying to say thor would be crushed instantaneously or what not but he wouldn't. Even if magneto could squeeze him till he's juiced he would not be able to just be like "crush" its over. As much effort as he would have to put into it he would be KO'ed before he really did that much damage.

EDIT: also your telling me magneto is going to see some guy with a hammer that calls himself thor and just be like "ok I accept you are a Norris God and I need to end it immediately"?

Originally posted by Robtard
Nope.
11/10

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
In my mind yes and no.

Kind of like sheet cake. Of course I can pick it up one handed no problem but that doesn't mean it wont collapse because my hand isn't big enough to support the structure. The leviathan was huge and moving towards him. Hulk punched from a standstill and was only pushed back 6-7 feet at the most. Anyways even if im wrong it wont matter. Thor can still throw his hammer and or summon lighting to hit mags also. See idk if you are trying to say thor would be crushed instantaneously or what not but he wouldn't. Even if magneto could squeeze him till he's juiced he would not be able to just be like "crush" its over. As much effort as he would have to put into it he would be KO'ed before he really did that much damage.

EDIT: also your telling me magneto is going to see some guy with a hammer that calls himself thor and just be like "ok I accept you are a Norris God and I need to end it immediately"?

Why I said "the bridge won't break apart".

You people are crazy thinking Thor and Hulk have shown the strength to rip out and carry the GGB. Crazy mother****ers I say.

To your edit: Per the MVF rules, unless otherwise dictated, the players are basic knowledge of each other. So Magneto would know Thor's a powerhouse and can shoot lightning with his hammer.

I miss read it when I first posted. I thought it said "In your mind, could Hulk rip out and carry the GGB? and the bridge wouldn't break apart?"

Then upon re-reading I noticed my mistake. I figured you would get my point though.

anyways like I said before.....even if I submit and say he would "juice" Thor how would it hinder his wrist movement? As long as he can move his wrists he can still throw and most likely shoot his lighting.

If I pin your wrist to the side of your upper hip and hand you a hammer, you're not tossing that hammer.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why I said "the bridge won't break apart".

You people are crazy thinking Thor and Hulk have shown the strength to rip out and carry the GGB. Crazy mother****ers I say.

To your edit: Per the MVF rules, unless otherwise dictated, the players are basic knowledge of each other. So Magneto would know Thor's a powerhouse and can shoot lightning with his hammer.

And then Thor would know there is a chance Mags might control his armor and would therefore not waste time 😛

Originally posted by Robtard
If I pin your wrist to the side of your upper hip and hand you a hammer, you're not tossing that hammer.
If I have Thor level strength I sure could.

Originally posted by Newjak
And then Thor would know there is a chance Mags might control his armor and would therefore not waste time 😛

If I have Thor level strength I sure could.

Thor would know Magneto controls metal. Magneto has to just think though, that's faster than using a weapon.

Nope, it's not a matter of strength, it's a matter of mobility.

Originally posted by Robtard
Thor would know Magneto controls metal. Magneto has to just think though, that's fast that point or swinging a hammer.

Nope, it's not a matter of strength, it's a matter of mobility.

Faster than Thor can think lightning blast 😛

All of Thor's lightning attacks required him moving Mjolnir in some fashion; they were in no way faster than thought or Magneto cocking his head slightly.

Originally posted by Robtard
All of Thor's lightning attacks required him moving Mjolnir in some fashion; they were in no way faster than thought or Magneto cocking his head slightly.
His flash lightning attack against the small of horde of Chitauri when he flies in didn't require him to do much 😛

Also you are forgetting everytime Magneto does an impressive feat he does it by outreaching his hand to control the object he is focussing on.

So it's Mags raising his hand vs Thor raising his hand.

Originally posted by Robtard
All of Thor's lightning attacks required him moving Mjolnir in some fashion; they were in no way faster than thought or Magneto cocking his head slightly.
Magneto needs to do a lot more than "think" to do the really big stuff, like the GGB feat. The required both arms and his full, uninterrupted (Say, by a hammer flying towards his face as hypersonic speeds) attention.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Magneto needs to do a lot more than "think" to do the really big stuff, like the GGB feat. The required both arms and his full, uninterrupted (Say, by a hammer flying towards his face as hypersonic speeds) attention.

Are you comparing the mass of Thor's armor to that of the GGB? Cos it seems you are.

At most, he needs to slightly cock his head to the side while making a pedo's smile and Thor is locked down in his armor, as shown.

Originally posted by Robtard
If I pin your wrist to the side of your upper hip and hand you a hammer, you're not tossing that hammer.

you are if it has a strap on the bottom of the handle to twirl it with. Not to mention a mere flick of his fingers would probably kill mags so it wouldn't take him much of a fling to KO with hammer. Also his armor stops at his wrists. Even pinning them to his sides wont stop them from tossing his hammer. Try it...grab a hammer, put your arms down and fling it it with only your wrists. After you see where it hit imagine you have super strength and you will change your opinion on the matter.

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you comparing the mass of Thor's armor to that of the GGB? Cos it seems you are.

At most, he needs to slightly cock his head to the side while making a pedo's smile and Thor is locked down in his armor, as shown.

Nah even when he stopped Wolverine he had to put his hand up.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
you are if it has a strap on the bottom of the handle to twirl it with. Not to mention a mere flick of his fingers would probably kill mags so it wouldn't take him much of a fling to KO with hammer. Also his armor stops at his wrists. Even pinning them to his sides wont stop them from tossing his hammer. Try it...grab a hammer, put your arms down and fling it it with only your wrists. After you see where it hit imagine you have super strength and you will change your opinion on the matter.

You'd have very little mobility and Thor wouldn't be throwing a normal 2lbs hammer, he's throwing Mjolnir which obviously is like a large and heavy hammer to him.

Scrapping the barrel for a win. Stop.