Agreed. The movie - higher level of canon to be sure - clearly shows that Yoda had the upper hand until he had his great fall. Yoda clearly outmaneuvers Sidious in lightsaber combat, and in the Force it's no contest; every time Sidious throws something big Yoda's way, Yoda absorbs it and redirects it.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Agreed. The movie - higher level of canon to be sure - clearly shows that Yoda had the upper hand until he had his great fall. Yoda clearly outmaneuvers Sidious in lightsaber combat, and in the Force it's no contest; every time Sidious throws something big Yoda's way, Yoda absorbs it and redirects it.
Even though I kind of agree, I would like to know what exactly made it clear that Yoda outmaneuvered Sidious in lightsaber combat. In the movie ofcourse.
Basically the way I took quote is that if Yoda were to kill Sidious, the Jedi would be labeled as villians on a galactic scale, even more so then what was already being put forth. Yoda killing Sidious would cement them as villianous in the eyes of many galactic leaders and governments. So falt out murdering Sidious would = failure so far as the big picture is concerned. The brighter he shined, the darker the shadow became - or something to that effect. I wish I had the quote on hand.
Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Basically the way I took quote is that if Yoda were to kill Sidious, the Jedi would be labeled as villians on a galactic scale, even more so then what was already being put forth. Yoda killing Sidious would cement them as villianous in the eyes of many galactic leaders and governments. So falt out murdering Sidious would = failure so far as the big picture is concerned. The brighter he shined, the darker the shadow became - or something to that effect. I wish I had the quote on hand.
Why the hell would Yoda go face him in the first place then?
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Why the hell would Yoda go face him in the first place then?
The novel states that at some point during their duel that Yoda realized this - so he obviously was oblivious to the fact before hand.
The script, which is higher canon than the novel makes it clear that Yoda had the upper hand and even had an opportunity to kill Sidious. Why didn't he take advantage of the opportunity? - Read my last post.
This is just my theory.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I doubt that Yoda would give a shit if the common people disliked them if it was a choice betwen that and the Sith controlling the galaxy. And Yoda was the one who ran from that fight, not Sidious.
Again - the script, higher canon than the novel, makes it clear that Yoda was in control of that fight. And as far as him 'running from the fight'; that doesn't mean that he was losing or lost to Sidious. "Careful timing we need."
Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Again - the script, higher canon than the novel, makes it clear that Yoda was in control of that fight. And as far as him 'running from the fight'; that doesn't mean that he was losing or lost to Sidious. "Careful timing we need."
The script is not higher canon than the novel. In fact, it is contradicted throughout numerous places such as Shaak Ti's death. Nor does it make it clear that Yoda was in control of the fight.
PALPATINE seeks refuge in the vast Senate Chamber. He gets into the Chancellor's Podium and it starts to rise up into the Arena. YODA makes a giant leap into the control pod. The sword fighting is intense in the confined space.
To be clear, Sidious was running in the beginning.
YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber but recovers with a BLAST OF ENERGY from his hands that surrounds YODA. YODA is deflecting the Sith Lord's lightning bolts.
The energy bolts begin to arc back on the Emperor. It looks as if the Dark Lord is doomed.
YODA: Destroy you I will, just as Master Kenobi, your apprentice will destroy.
Yoda was handling Sidious' force barrage and disarmed him in lightsaber combat. At no point during their battle does the script imply that Sidious has the upper hand until the end (which is arguable). It does imply however that Yoda was superior in the force department as well as with a lightsaber. So let me rephrase what I said earlier. The script implies that Yoda was in control of the battle and appeared to have an opportunity to finish Sidious off, but didn't. Why? Who knows.
Did you just reply to the same post twice?
Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
😬You know damn well that the script holds up unless it DIRECTLY contradicts what is shown on screen. So much editing and cutting away from the action.
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No.... I don't. 😬
Since when has something that wasn't even shot, not even as a deleted scene, been part of the movie?