World War Hulk vs Blood and Thunder Thor

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm

I pointed out that if you take Superman's speed feats at face value, Thor wouldn't be able to land a punch if Clark was not limited by his character and other factors, including comic book logic.

Do you disagree with that stance? If so, why? Perhaps you know of some Thor speed feats that I'm unaware of. Even if we go to the extreme and assume Thor can throw punches at the speed of light, Clark still has superior body movement overall.

This isn't me abandoning the character. What a ridiculous thing to say. Thor still beats Superman.

I'm saving this post. I can't believe you repeated this yet again. I can PM you why I am saying this if you want and I promise you that you would lose.

I am gathering ALL of my Thor scans. I'm taking the character from you.

Originally posted by h1a8
So a character never being koed means they are unkoable or unkillable? 🙄

And healing factor has nothing to do with Hulk changing back to Banner. There is no connection there besides your own silly hypothetical belief. Facts are facts and hypothetical mess isn't facts. Hulk has been koed, burned to almost a skeleton, and injured in the most craziest ways. Never has he reverted back to Banner. There is no connection there whatsoever.

It was clear that the magic of the hammers caused the feat. Have you ever seen anything like that done in comics based off pure strength alone? If those hammers were plain adamantium clubs then nothing would have happened.

The Superman feat wasn't hyperbole since it was SHOWN and explicitly stated what the Supermen were doing. Who cares about what is being destroyed? The mere fact that someone can punch hard enough with only pure strength as to uck with dimensions and reality is awesome.

And Sentry has never been even high herald (more like mid herald) since the beginning with the exception of molecule man feat. He has too many lows feats in ratio to his high feats to prove otherwise.

And it doesn't matter what Pak said since the comic made no reference to Sentry's aura not effecting Hulk anymore. In Hulk's entire history, Hulk has never reverted back to Banner, even after the most grueing of injuries. As a matter of fact, reverting back to Banner with severe injuries would result in death to Banner.

Of course Thor wins this. My argument was to make this WBH but bloodlusted and then it will be a real fight. Til then Thor wins this.

You are referring to the Superman Zod fight. I'm referring to the two Supermen fighting. The writer's intentions was that it was the great power of the two that made the feat possible, nothing else. This is because nothing else was given to the story to explain it away.

The comic backs up what he said so what you think is irrelevant.

NRAMA: The Sentry’s "Goodbye old friend" - what was that prelude to? I don't mean to sound like the guy who only saw the special effects and missed the story - but what happened to the Sentry and Hulk to change them back to Bob and Bruce? Was this Bruce consciously deciding to stop, to save the world by sending the Hulk away?

GP: "Goodbye old friend" is the Sentry's way of saying that he figures they're both going to die now that he's unleashed his power so completely. Bob and Bruce appear because these two megaheavyweights have pounded each other so hard and so long that they've forced each other to revert to their respective puny human forms.

my theory is better.

anyway, hulk still shat on the notion he powered down by going super saiyin biscuits

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
The comic backs up what he said so what you think is irrelevant.

Originally posted by h1a8
Comics back up what everyone on this forum says. That doesn't make their argument sound though. Only an idiot would believe that with the PG ANYONE (now matter how dumb) would be completely invulnerable. I don't think the PG even adds to durability at all.

Dont care about the Power gem or what it does my statement related to the calming aura having not effect on Hulk, granted it was probably my fault for not quoting the specific part.

Anyway since were talking about the gem from what I have seen I dont know about it making you invulnerable but it certainly seems to add you durability.

Without the gem

With the gem

Hulk

Hulk

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Anyway since were talking about the gem from what I have seen I dont know about it making you invulnerable but it certainly seems to add you durability.

Without the gem

With the gem

Ok I can agree it adds a little to one's durability. But it seems she braced there, and bracing requires strength.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok I can agree it adds a little to one's durability. But it seems she braced there, and bracing requires strength.

On one leg?

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
On one leg?

Superman also braced for DD's first blow. It did absolutely nothing. The next blows came unexpectantly and thus we see the result.

Thor easily.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yup. Otherwise she would have got hit backwards like the invincible Classic Juggernaut has been many times.

Superman also braced for DD's first blow. It did absolutely nothing. The next blows came unexpectantly and thus we see the result.

I am a bit confused as what you trying to say here it sounds like you saying that you she is bracing herself with one leg which is not what happened.If you look at the scan she lands from her leap on one leg at the same time Jen starts to run at her she never puts the second foot on the ground before she is hit with the kick.No bracing is going on in that scan she just casually stands there and takes the attack with no effect.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I am a bit confused as what you trying to say here it sounds like you saying that you she is bracing herself with one leg which is not what happened.If you look at the scan she lands from her leap on one leg at the same time Jen starts to run at her she never puts the second foot on the ground before she is hit with the kick.No bracing is going on in that scan she just casually stands there and takes the attack with no effect.

Bracing in a ditsy girl stance. Hilarious

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I am a bit confused as what you trying to say here it sounds like you saying that you she is bracing herself with one leg which is not what happened.If you look at the scan she lands from her leap on one leg at the same time Jen starts to run at her she never puts the second foot on the ground before she is hit with the kick.No bracing is going on in that scan she just casually stands there and takes the attack with no effect.

You act as if it is impossible to brace with one foot on the ground. She didn't want to put her other foot down, it wasn't that she didnt have time. She planted her foot way before shehulk got there. She saw shehulk coming all the way and smiled even before shehulk hit her. She was more than ready for the strike. This is obvious. No need to be confus ed.

Originally posted by h1a8
If she didn't brace then explain why she didn't fly backwards then?

You act as if it is impossible to brace with one foot on the ground. She didn't want to put her other foot down, it wasn't that she didnt have time. She planted her foot way before shehulk got there. She saw shehulk coming all the way and smiled even before shehulk hit her. She was more than ready for the strike. This is obvious. No need to be confus ed.

First of all I would like to explain to you who just jump kicked Titania that was amp She-hulk who lifted Things maximum weight with one hand who threw a arm wrestling match with Hercules who was given his all while wearing a suit to restrict her strength and not even trying.The idea that you think on one leg that Titania could no sell an attack from her is moronic.

This is who Titania fought in this arc and not only did she beat them all down but none of their attack effected her.If this was Titania with her natural durability powergem or not she would have been shit stomp in the first couple of seconds

There is zero doubt that during Slott's run, the Power Gem amped the physical stats of an opponent significantly. IIRC Champion beat the shit out of Surfer, Bill and Gladiator but lost to She-Hulk without it. I guess that's where Bendis drew inspiration for his arc.

Under Starlin, the jump was never that significant. You seem to have needed practice and/or knowledge to make significant use of the Gems. At least based on what I've seen. Thor would have been like one shot killing Heralds and should have stomped Thanos if the boost was anywhere near as that big. Drax should have been higher than elite Top Tier with the Gem as well.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
There is zero doubt that the Power Gem amps the physical stats of an opponent significantly.

As usaly H1a doesn't know sh**! the Power gem adds to your durability and your strength that's fact! B&T Thor sh** stomps WW Hulk, Thor was kicking high herald a$$ and wan't getting tired, before he got the gem Thor battled Beta Ray Bill on a planet, Thor knock his a$$ into orbit, and then the second time hit him with so much force the planet that they were on exploded. So yeah WW Hulk is F**ked!

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
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The Power Gem can amp an individual noticeably, but the amp Titania got was incredibly huge. If Champion did what I remember him doing, the same can be said for him.

I dislike that currently anyone can grab a Gem and suddenly jump entire tiers.