Manchester Black vs Gladiator

Started by Sin I AM17 pages
Originally posted by carver9
And brushed off Rachel who is >Manchester.

based on what, she is certainly less skilled, more power ala pf but certainly less skilled

Originally posted by BattleMage
Glads 9/10

😆

Originally posted by Sin I AM
based on what, she is certainly less skilled, more power ala pf but certainly less skilled

pretty much what i ws thinking. and his commend of tk is being ignored. he amped himself to go h2h with supes as well. he also used his tk to directly attack clark's brain. i'm siding with black here....

Black wins throguh the TK/TP fine control/raw power combo . He should be brought back, for a charatcer created solely so authority could be critcized for its deconstruction and reinvention of the superheroe genre through SM's optic, he did pretty well.

Dude is a total beast. Completely worthless vs. superspeed though.

with CIS on, Black should take the great majority. With CIS off, Glads wipes the floor with him at superspeed.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
based on what, she is certainly less skilled, more power ala pf but certainly less skilled

I'd like to point out it was a Phoenixless Rachel.

Gladiator stomps.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Dude is a total beast. Completely worthless vs. superspeed though.

with CIS on, Black should take the great majority. With CIS off, Glads wipes the floor with him at superspeed.

elite and MB could have handled superman better in that oneshot though, they underestimated him

Originally posted by BattleMage
Glads 9/10

10/10.

Light speed for the win.

Even without it, I'd be he can heat vision his head off before Black can debilitate him.

Originally posted by 753
elite and MB could have handled superman better in that oneshot though, they underestimated him

Supes wasn't exactly smart either, letting them get in the first attacks.

The fact is, they hit him with everything they had, and it wasn't enough to finish him off. Glads should at least have the same chance at surviving an initial assault (Which Black won't get, because of the ridiculous speed difference.)

Originally posted by cdtm
Supes wasn't exactly smart either, letting them get in the first attacks.

The fact is, they hit him with everything they had, and it wasn't enough to finish him off. Glads should at least have the same chance at surviving an initial assault (Which Black won't get, because of the ridiculous speed difference.)

Just beating them like that would have solved nothing. He wanted the world to see Elite for what they were, cold blooded murderers, make them think he's dead.

And THEN beat them silly.

ugh. too many comparisons with superman. a) glads blitz speed<<superman's. b) glads demonstrated willpower<<<<<superman's. in all, glads<<<<superman, so i don't see any justification for the comparison. tk could EASILY affect glads before he blitzed. not like black wouldn't know he was fast. black literally got inside superman's head and f'd him up could--both with tp AND on a different occasion, tk. i don't see anyway glads wins this via blitz, even if he COULD blitz as quickly as superman.

glads moves faster than the speed of light?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
glads moves faster than the speed of light?

He doesn't have to.

Originally posted by cdtm
Supes wasn't exactly smart either, letting them get in the first attacks.

The fact is, they hit him with everything they had, and it wasn't enough to finish him off. Glads should at least have the same chance at surviving an initial assault (Which Black won't get, because of the ridiculous speed difference.)

SM planned ahead and fought pretty smart. the thing is they could have finished him off. they were playing with him at the beggining. if MB had maintained the TK attacks to his bloodvessels while the rest doggypiled and coldcast delivered the blast that would have been it. SM evaded that blast and the first time he was hit with a high frequency neutrino wash, when they meet in tokyo, SM was incapacitated and coldcast had to stop the attack and IIRC reverse it so as not to kill SM with it

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
He doesn't have to.

he has to move faster than the speed of thought...so yea he does

Originally posted by 753
SM planned ahead and fought pretty smart. the thing is they could have finished him off. they were playing with him at the beggining. if MB had maintained the TK attacks to his bloodvessels while the rest doggypiled and coldcast delivered the blast that would have been it. SM evaded that blast and the first time he was hit with a high frequency neutrino wash, when they meet in tokyo, SM was incapacitated and coldcast had to stop the attack and IIRC reverse it so as not to kill SM with it

Well in Tokyo he was weakened but there is nothing to suggest he would've died. And on Jupiter's moon he actually did take the full brunt of that blast.

You can see him in Coldcast's grip as it blows. You can also tell a few pages later where his face is all messed up from the blast as opposed to here.

And I think it's pretty clear by how he took them all out without even trying that he was the one playing with them. 🙂

Concerning the topic, Manchester's TK is amazing in some respects. But he needs to have a "lock" on the person he's trying to fry. For instance he gave Menagerie a stroke from across the ocean by pinching the exact capillary he needed to, but he was unable to pinpoint and do the same to Supes on Jupiter's moon, intending instead to AoE the entire surface (gravity-howitzer 🙂 ).

Originally posted by leonidas
ugh. too many comparisons with superman. a) glads blitz speed<<superman's. b) glads demonstrated willpower<<<<<superman's. in all, glads<<<<superman, so i don't see any justification for the comparison. tk could EASILY affect glads before he blitzed. not like black wouldn't know he was fast. black literally got inside superman's head and f'd him up could--both with tp AND on a different occasion, tk. i don't see anyway glads wins this via blitz, even if he COULD blitz as quickly as superman.

This is all jacked up and is basically just your opinion.

As for the light speed comment... on 2 occassions, Glads has blitzed something/someone at light speed and in battle, he tends to blitz 90% of the time. Its in character for him. He has also demonstrated nanosecond punching.

Manchester loses this hard with a heat vision to the skull.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
he has to move faster than the speed of thought...so yea he does

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/DavidParizh.shtml

approx. 380 miles per hour.

Speed of light = approximately 186,282 per SECOND.

Quite a big difference. Even Quicksilver could punk him in that time.

Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/DavidParizh.shtml

approx. 380 miles per hour.

Speed of light = approximately 186,282 per SECOND.

Quite a big difference. Even Quicksilver could punk him in that time.

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