Originally posted by Sin I AM
real word phyisics .... in comic debates
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You asked if he can move at ftl speeds, I said he doesn't have to. Then you said:
Originally posted by Sin I AM
he has to move faster than the speed of thought...so yea he does
So I enlightened you as to the fact that the speed of light is actually about 1.75 million times faster than the speed of thought. Is any of this getting through to you? 🙂
Was there a memo saying in comic books speed of thought >>> speed of light? Nice backtracking attempt though, can't blame you for trying 🙂
Originally posted by Sin I AM
btw he didnt blitz black so what was the point of the pic
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? The point of the pic was that he was so fast Manchester didn't:
1. register his presence
2. have the time to finish his next word
3. get a chance to form any sort of attack.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
this is what i was getting at, i was curious if there was a ratio in comics that stated which was greatr
Red Son makes it clear when Superman owns all the green lanterns and says "A thought-based weapon against someone who moves at ten times the speed of thought?". Not canon but a mighty fine read on how a superman vs GL fight should go 🙂
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Red Son makes it clear when Superman owns all the green lanterns and says "A thought-based weapon against someone who moves at ten times the speed of thought?". Not canon but a mighty fine read on how a superman vs GL fight should go 🙂
good thing its not canon and black isnt a gl 😮💨 , but u make a profound argument
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~red son was a superb arc in general. however, sm moved faster than those green lanterns, but a lot of marvel telepaths can think at superspeed, even if they cant move their bodies at superspeed. quentin quire being the most dramatic example, but chuck and emma have also displayed this numerous times. not sure what if Black could be said to pack something like that, however.
Red Son makes it clear when Superman owns all the green lanterns and says "A thought-based weapon against someone who moves at ten times the speed of thought?". Not canon but a mighty fine read on how a superman vs GL fight should go 🙂
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~weakened from what? coldcast said he was going to die and I think SM himself says his electrons were flying off or maybe that was coldcast too.
Well in Tokyo he was weakened but there is nothing to suggest he would've died. And on Jupiter's moon he actually did take the full brunt of that blast.You can see him in Coldcast's grip as it blows. You can also tell a few pages later where his face is all messed up from the blast as opposed to here.
And I think it's pretty clear by how he took them all out without even trying that he was the one playing with them. 🙂
Concerning the topic, Manchester's TK is amazing in some respects. But he needs to have a "lock" on the person he's trying to fry. For instance he gave Menagerie a stroke from across the ocean by pinching the exact capillary he needed to, but he was unable to pinpoint and do the same to Supes on Jupiter's moon, intending instead to AoE the entire surface (gravity-howitzer 🙂 ).
I believe he just escaped the blast with superspeed at the very last moment, the wounds had already piled up. MB was also stupid to have dropped the TK field arround them and hat was a moron, he could have soloed from what was implied.
Originally posted by leonidas
pretty much what i ws thinking. and his commend of tk is being ignored. he amped himself to go h2h with supes as well. he also used his tk to directly attack clark's brain. i'm siding with black here....
That's the thing. His TK would factor in. IIRC he could have busted Supes blood vessels pretty quickly but for how tough they were, he said his blood vessels were like concrete.
Originally posted by 753
weakened from what? coldcast said he was going to die and I think SM himself says his electrons were flying off or maybe that was coldcast too.I believe he just escaped the blast with superspeed at the very last moment, the wounds had already piled up. MB was also stupid to have dropped the TK field arround them and hat was a moron, he could have soloed from what was implied.
They didn't underestimate Supes so much as Supes outsmarted them. If Supes didn't have a sound plan he'd have gone down.
Also I wouldn't say Hat was a moron, he just didn't figure that there was a way Supes could take him out.
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Red Son makes it clear when Superman owns all the green lanterns and says "A thought-based weapon against someone who moves at ten times the speed of thought?". Not canon but a mighty fine read on how a superman vs GL fight should go 🙂
Agreed on that.
At least unless they remember GL's have auto defenses. 😛
But yeah, didn't Glads end up fighting Thor on even terms when time was massively slowed down (To the point where everything seemed frozen?). Thor had to use a special belt to counter the effects, but Gladiator was going on sheer speed.
tp in comics (as pg demonstrated) is OFTEN ftl in comics..... and it wouldn't have to be in this case. and of COURSE carver, everyone knows you think glads>>superman and everyone knows how you think this would go. that is YOUR opinion. i was looking for unbiased opinions. i still think black waxes him.
