Heihachi vs. Ryu

Who wins ?

Been done to death already across so many crossover threads... I'm not going through that shite again, so I'll just say Ryu wins in a pinch.

I think Ryu can KO Heihachi without much trouble. Killing him, well that's a different story.

Yes, Heihachi seems quite hard to kill.

His feat to stop a bullet with his teeth is quite good, however I think too that Ryu wins this.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
I think Ryu can KO Heihachi without much trouble. Killing him, well that's a different story.

Based upon canon feats and storyline.

Ryu can tank fists from a man that can destroy one island with a fist. That's storyline/gameplay segregation. Even Tekkenverse has it: gameplay-wise Tekken chars are not too different from real world athletes, but looking at intro, endings, etc, we can see that Heiachi can block a bullet with his teeth, 4 example.
In Street Fighter (and even moreso in Darkstalkers) char are far more powerful storyline-wise than gameplay wise.

However Heihachi seems resistant like a cockroach (that old man simply don't want to die), so is fair to state that Ryu can KO Heiachi without too much trouble, but he may not able to kill him (even 'cause Ryu doesn't fight to kill people).

Originally posted by Meioh_Hades
Based upon canon feats and storyline.

Ryu can tank fists from a man that can destroy one island with a fist. That's storyline/gameplay segregation. Even Tekkenverse has it: gameplay-wise Tekken chars are not too different from real world athletes, but looking at intro, endings, etc, we can see that Heiachi can block a bullet with his teeth, 4 example.
In Street Fighter (and even moreso in Darkstalkers) char are far more powerful storyline-wise than gameplay wise.

However Heihachi seems resistant like a cockroach (that old man simply don't want to die), so is fair to state that Ryu can KO Heiachi without too much trouble, but he may not able to kill him (even 'cause Ryu doesn't fight to kill people).

The island fist punch is greatly exaggerated and hasn't been definitively proven to be canon.

I'd say Heihachi wins. Meaner, bullet catcher, his fists break Ryu's jaw.

"Not definitelvely proven as canon"? Wut? No, seriously, wut?

The fact that Street Fighters plot in A2 was propelled forward by this event, culminating in Ryu losing 2 matches because he questioned his conviction purely based on said event.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
"Not definitelvely proven as canon"? Wut? No, seriously, wut?

The fact that Street Fighters plot in A2 was propelled forward by this event, culminating in Ryu losing 2 matches because he questioned his conviction purely based on said event.

Watch Ryu's A2 ending where the event took place.

It was after that event that Ryu lost to Sagat, then Ken as per their endings, which are also official.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
so I'll just say Ryu wins in a pinch.

Ryu loses cuz Heihachi is an experienced fighter and he's as tough as the diamond. (the explosion he tanked in tekken 5 is the equivalent of the nuclear bomb cuz jack bloodline is made of plutonium).
Ryu can put up a good fight but in the end, he'd get pwned....

That's if your idea of a good fight is seeing Ryu's skull shatter against Heihachi's upon impact, or getting Broken-Toy'd off a cliff he wouldn't survive against.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Proof ?

You always ask "proof" for things that are proved to be canon in SF, and almost everyone with knowledge of a bit of SFverse know that those things happened.

So, since you don't know almost nothing of SF canon powers, how can you truly judge Street Fighters' warriors abilities?

Originally posted by GVSSK
Why would you say the less obvious of the two outcomes? Normal Ryu has to avoid what Heihachi catches with his teeth. Durability and experience shits on Ryu as well.

Bullets bounce off of Ryu. 😎

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IIRC the "bullet dodge" was in the SF Alpha anime (noncanon anime, but Capcom stated that chars have the "right" canon powers in that anime).

So Alpha Ryu can effortessly dodge bullets, while the stronger and wiser Ryu from SF4 simply don't even need to dodge them.

Heiachi has to catch what bounced off Ryu's skin. Durability and experience shits on Heiachi as well 😛

ryu is just a student compere to heihachi
even kazuya is stronger

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Bullets bounce off of Ryu. 😎

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I said normal Ryu. Normal Ryu was bleeding from a couple of street bums with alcohol bottles wasn't he? Is this the Alpha movie Capcom said was an accurate portrayal of the characters? Heihachi didn't bleed from a blast that would have vaporized normal Ryu.

Originally posted by GVSSK
Someone might want to read posts carefully.

I said normal Ryu. Normal Ryu was bleeding from a couple of street bums with alcohol bottles wasn't he? Is this the Alpha movie Capcom said was an accurate portrayal of the characters? Heihachi didn't bleed from a blast that would have vaporized normal Ryu.

There is no possible way to know that.

Heihachi didn't surface again for 3 weeks.

And Kazuya, who is easily on par or superior to Heihachi has been scarred by less, hell, even Hachi himself has got scars.

And, Ryu has been able to tank Gouki's attacks, attacks with the potential to level islands>>>>> Any feat in Tekken by a good 5 orders of magnitude.