Heihachi vs. Ryu

Which is why Ryu was bleeding after a bottle was smacked on him. I'm sure he got island-destroying durability in just a few years time. In other words, those weren't Akuma's "island-leveling attacks" he was delivering that time unless you'd like to prove it.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
There is no possible way to know that.

Heihachi didn't surface again for 3 weeks.

And Kazuya, who is easily on par or superior to Heihachi has been scarred by less, hell, even Hachi himself has got scars.

And, Ryu has been able to tank Gouki's attacks, attacks with the potential to level islands>>>>> Any feat in Tekken by a good 5 orders of magnitude.

Which is why feats heavily say otherwise.

Feats aren't the only thing you look at when gauging a character's abilities.

quanchi112 the thread maker was more or less discussing feats solely, so I guess some are shit out of luck.

He wasn't even discussing that much. He only spoke on gameplay.

Gameplay which is dismissable from any theoretical vs debate.

I had a feeling that GVSSK was a copy account of Wandering Flame.

Not suprising really...

I knew it was him from the start. That's why I never responded to anything he said. I was gonna warn you all but looks like the mods had their coffe this mornin.

The Bulls lost, I am dyin on the inside right now.

hell no ,how can ryu stand alive after getting punched by someone who sinkes islands with 1 punch?
its impossible and exagerated.
and the feat of akuma sinking island is bit overrated too.
akuma cannot do it ,he needs atleast use all of he's power to do it

Originally posted by samirerre
hell no ,how can ryu stand alive after getting punched by someone who sinkes islands with 1 punch?
its impossible and exagerated.
and the feat of akuma sinking island is bit overrated too.
akuma cannot do it ,he needs atleast use all of he's power to do it

He does? He becomes Shin or Oni in that scene? When? And he actually powers up a technique? When?

See, this is the problem, There is no evidence that Gouki actually uses any more power there than what he used to fight Ryu, and with that power he sunk the island with a physical blow.

Now, let me ask you this, why is it impossible for Ryu to survive, when he did? Why is it exagerated. Why is the island sinker overrated? and WTF? He did do it, and th scene shows he did it with less than base form power. Why do you question this?

Originally posted by samirerre
hell no ,how can ryu stand alive after getting punched by someone who sinkes islands with 1 punch?
its impossible and exagerated.
and the feat of akuma sinking island is bit overrated too.
akuma cannot do it ,he needs atleast use all of he's power to do it

Don't worry, i'm pretty sure Ryu can't survive at the nuclear bomb heihachi received.
Akuma rly sunk the island but the power he used at this moment was far from superior against Ryu
Ryu can't win this match, simple as that. Heihachi is tough compared to Ryu. The latter got his ass handed to him by kaz who can't beat his father.

Well, I doubt that Ryu really tanked an island busting punch. In SF4, he got his ass handed by Seth (And he won later with metsu hadouken) and Gouki isn't normal when he punched the island and caused it sink. He was covered with an aura, his breathing is not normal and most likely, he punched the island with all of his power. It's strange if his normal punch is so much stronger than his usual technique like his gou hadouken and tenma gou zankuu.

Back to this topic, Heihachi wins. Like Crimson said, I doubt Ryu could survive if he is blasted by a same explosion Heihachi took. And I even doubt Ryu has a power as powerful as a nuke. He cut a waterfall with hadouken and that's the only feat I know from Ryu.

How can you say that Gouki's punch is stronger than his special moves?

And about the aura, Gouki does it all the times.

It's you that can't just accept the fact that Gouki, even in his "normal mode" has the power to sink an island with one punch, and that Ryu has enough endurance to tank a similar punch.

And about the fact that Ryu had an hard time against Seth, is just 'cause Seth is very powerful. In SSF4 move, we clearly see Juri's feats, and Seth doesn't seem to fear her.

@crimson 2010: if the "Ryu got his ass kicked from Kazuya" is from the SF X Tekken trailer, it does not count: we all know that crossover are not canon, and in those games "Rule of cool > canon".

In Marvel vs Capcom 3 Ryu soloed Galactus, but we all know that Ryu would never beat him in canon.

Originally posted by Meioh_Hades
How can you say that Gouki's punch is stronger than his special moves?

And about the aura, Gouki does it all the times.

It's you that can't just accept the fact that Gouki, even in his "normal mode" has the power to sink an island with one punch, and that Ryu has enough endurance to tank a similar punch.

And about the fact that Ryu had an hard time against Seth, is just 'cause Seth is very powerful. In SSF4 move, we clearly see Juri's feats, and Seth doesn't seem to fear her.

Because his special moves like Tenma Gou Zanku creates nothing but big explosion (Or maybe crater too). His newest move in SF4 wrecked a forest. Even his shakunetsu gou hadouken creates not-so-big explosions which can't be compared to island busting power.

All the time? Check his battle with Ryu in SF4 trailer. He doesn't have such aura when fighting Ryu. He has it but it isn't all time.

Seth is powerful but is he an island buster? And Ken which is on par with Ryu, able to bust an island too? I don't think so. Other than shattered a sand sack, Ken has no other feats.

Originally posted by Meioh_Hades
How can you say that Gouki's punch is stronger than his special moves?

And about the aura, Gouki does it all the times.

It's you that can't just accept the fact that Gouki, even in his "normal mode" has the power to sink an island with one punch, and that Ryu has enough endurance to tank a similar punch.

And about the fact that Ryu had an hard time against Seth, is just 'cause Seth is very powerful. In SSF4 move, we clearly see Juri's feats, and Seth doesn't seem to fear her.

@crimson 2010: if the "Ryu got his ass kicked from Kazuya" is from the SF X Tekken trailer, it does not count: we all know that crossover are not canon, and in those games "Rule of cool > canon".

In Marvel vs Capcom 3 Ryu soloed Galactus, but we all know that Ryu would never beat him in canon.

Yes! An intelligent and sensible man, you are.

It's a proven fact that Gouki's appearance will change, Dependant on how much power he uses. It's also a fact that Ryu under the influence of the Satsui No Hado was equal to normal Gouki in SFA2 [who could smash islands]. It is also stated fact that Ryu, by the time of SFIII, is even stronger than the version of Ryu that would use the Satsui No Hadou. The current Ryu, SFIII NOT SFIV, should be able to smash more than islands.

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That.

Akuma used a normal punch. Ryu isn't as powerful as Akuma in most instances, but he can keep up with him and put up a fight. He isn't so far behind he dies from a glance. People just don't like how powerful they have become.

street fighter becomes less street fighter with each year passing
to get hit by a island puncher is like having punch with a force of
hundreds of millions of tonnes
darkstorm-if you think this is not ovareted then something with you is wrong
capcom screwed sf story for good lol

Street Fighter was never said to be "street" why do I have to explain that to people.

Mortal Kombat has immortal characters. SF wasn't the only one that got powerful over time. (Not to mention the feats were 15 years ago with the island). But look at Sonic, he got more powerful. Mario did too, so did DK. We have the technology now to show those kind of effects.