Heihachi vs. Ryu

Started by samirerre11 pages

akuma did not used normal punche
im sorry but you cant be sure if he can even do it twice
its obiolsly was show that he focused all of his power to pull it

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Street Fighter was never said to be "street" why do I have to explain that to people.

Mortal Kombat has immortal characters. SF wasn't the only one that got powerful over time. (Not to mention the feats were 15 years ago with the island). But look at Sonic, he got more powerful. Mario did too, so did DK. We have the technology now to show those kind of effects.

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It is truly painful to see you have to explain that characters become more powerful overtime. They don't have to accomplish "feats" just to prove that.

When you're the most successful you will have the most haters.

Originally posted by samirerre
akuma did not used normal punche
im sorry but you cant be sure if he can even do it twice
its obiolsly was show that he focused all of his power to pull it
He didn't have the kongou then. It was a normal punch.

Originally posted by samirerre
darkstorm-if you think this is not ovareted then something with you is wrong

Excuse you? Why don't you explain to me your definition of 'Overrated' then?

Fact#1: Akuma did the feat in base form without any powering up.

Fact#2: He did this YEARS before inventing the similar technique called Kongou Kokuretsu Zan, which was not perfected till decades later.

Fact#3: This one act alone is beyond most comparable competition. The only thing detractors like you can say is 'Overrated'?

Seems to me that these 3 facts amount to you lot =

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
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It is truly painful to see you have to explain that characters become more powerful overtime.

Who could ever thought of that?

Warriors like Ryu and Gouki, who devote their life to become greater fighters, become STRONGER in the years O_O !?!?!?!?!?!

That's IMPOSSIBLE!!!

Tell me about it.

Originally posted by Meioh_Hades

It's you that can't just accept the fact that Gouki, even in his "normal mode" has the power to sink an island with one punch, and that Ryu has enough endurance to tank a similar punch.

Except Gouki really didn't punch Ryu with that kind of punch. I don't know why people keep saying this.

lol this kid looks like me ..kidding
from where you take thos info anyway?
sorry but a trainer who couldnt even beat sagat can possibly
stand LITERALLY STAND a chance against 1 akuma island freaking punch ? is it really possible?
darkstoem-akuma himself is overrated

Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Except Gouki really didn't punch Ryu with that kind of punch. I don't know why people keep saying this.
So how hard does Gouki hit in fights?

Ryu can tank SFA Akuma's punches since...well, he's better than SFA Akuma.

Game Versus can be a very ridiculous place, sometimes.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So how hard does Gouki hit in fights?

Based on what's shown so far (like the SFIV fight), he couldn't have been hitting that hard. Besides, it has already been confirmed that he holds back in fights.

Originally posted by samirerre
lol this kid looks like me ..kidding
from where you take thos info anyway?
sorry but a trainer who couldnt even beat sagat can possibly
stand LITERALLY STAND a chance against 1 akuma island freaking punch ? is it really possible?
darkstoem-akuma himself is overrated

Ryu did beat Sagat tho.

This feat is set AFTER the first battle with Sagat anyway, once again, people becoming strionger over time should not be considered an impossibility. And besides, that should say to you what Sagat is capable of more than anything else.

You fail to answer my question. I asked you to define your use of 'Overrated'. Because it seems to me you plucked the word after seeing other people use it, and have no idea as to it's meaning. And based on that fact alone I can say:

You guys screaming "Overrated!" does nothing to invalidate the arguments, especially when you don't offer any counter-evidence.

Originally posted by Meioh_Hades
You always ask "proof" for things that are proved to be canon in SF, and almost everyone with knowledge of a bit of SFverse know that those things happened.

So, since you don't know almost nothing of SF canon powers, how can you truly judge Street Fighters' warriors abilities?

I've played enough street fighter games to know the story isn't thought out in detail at all in the games anyways. I mean ken's ending is where he has a kid isn't really an exciting ending or blank meeting up with his mommy.

The point is I want the ending referenced in a later game not just speculation and want you want to be canon.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Watch Ryu's A2 ending where the event took place.

It was after that event that Ryu lost to Sagat, then Ken as per their endings, which are also official.

You're saying this makes sense so without proof you want this to be canon. Just because an ending seems plausible that doesn't mean it followed the continuity from game to game.

Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Based on what's shown so far (like the SFIV fight), he couldn't have been hitting that hard. Besides, it has already been confirmed that he holds back in fights.
But it was a draw battle. And he wasn't at full power when he hit the mountain.

And arguing whether it's canon or not is just silly, it is all canon.

Originally posted by samirerre
lol this kid looks like me ..kidding
from where you take thos info anyway?
sorry but a trainer who couldnt even beat sagat can possibly
stand LITERALLY STAND a chance against 1 akuma island freaking punch ? is it really possible?
darkstoem-akuma himself is overrated

From this post, it seems that you're totally understimate Sagat's prowess. He's one of the strongest SF chars.

@ that troll quanchi112. What has to do the fact that Ken's SF3 ending is not exciting, with the fact that endings like Ryu's in SF Alpha 2 IS canon?

Is not necessary to have a direct reference in other games to state one end as canon. You can read something about the story, use your brain to do 2+2=4 and you'll know wich endings are canon and wich endings are not without direct references.

Originally posted by Meioh_Hades
From this post, it seems that you're totally understimate Sagat's prowess. He's one of the strongest SF chars.

@ that troll quanchi112. What has to do the fact that Ken's SF3 ending is not exciting, with the fact that endings like Ryu's in SF Alpha 2 IS canon?

Is not necessary to have a direct reference in other games to state one end as canon. You can read something about the story, use your brain to do 2+2=4 and you'll know wich endings are canon and wich endings are not without direct references.

Without direct proof then you don't have anything. If something is canon from a game you need to prove it.

Heihachi's bullet catching feat is canon since it's in the canon story mode.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
You're saying this makes sense so without proof you want this to be canon. Just because an ending seems plausible that doesn't mean it followed the continuity from game to game.

No, I am saying that without that event, and the contents of that event, then the story cannot proceed. it can be the most warped nonsensical story in existamce, but without a chain of events it does not happen.

The fact that it is Ryu's ending, and the fact that Akuma has had supporting feats after this one is direct proof that akuma is capable of what is shown.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Without direct proof then you don't have anything. If something is canon from a game you need to prove it.

Heihachi's bullet catching feat is canon since it's in the canon story mode.

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Lol you know even the fatass Bob can dodge bullet while reading a newspaper, so dodging bullet in tekkenverse doesn't seem abnormal. But i didn't see someone in Street Fighter doing this feat.
Besides, Heihachi hold his own against someone who whooped Nancy ass and could make Naruto and his Kage Bushin ashamed....

Ryu has no way to win this fight

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, I am saying that without that event, and the contents of that event, then the story cannot proceed. it can be the most warped nonsensical story in existamce, but without a chain of events it does not happen.

The fact that it is Ryu's ending, and the fact that Akuma has had supporting feats after this one is direct proof that akuma is capable of what is shown.

I never said he wasn't capable of it based off his endings I said it hasn't been proven to be canon nor does Akuma ever use this amount of force in a versus fight making it all irrelevant.
Originally posted by crimson_2010
Lol you know even the fatass Bob can dodge bullet while reading a newspaper, so dodging bullet in tekkenverse doesn't seem abnormal. But i didn't see someone in Street Fighter doing this feat.
Besides, Heihachi hold his own against someone who whooped Nancy ass and could make Naruto and his Kage Bushin ashamed....

Ryu has no way to win this fight

I agree that Heihachi does win and that tekken characters seems more formidable than street fighter characters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he wasn't capable of it based off his endings I said it hasn't been proven to be canon nor does Akuma ever use this amount of force in a versus fight making it all irrelevant.

How much proof do you require? This is irrelevant as the evidence has been proven fact countless times here in KMC, and the fact that you don't accept that is irrelevant.

Wrong, just because he doesn't use the capability in-universe, does not mean that he cannot do it if he factually has the ability. I'm assuming then that you have not read VS forum rules, ergo, all combatants are bloodlusted and will not be holding back. Do you not understand what this means? it means that Akuma will NOT be holding off island busting physical attacks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree that Heihachi does win and that tekken characters seems more formidable than street fighter characters.

^ this is your oppinion, and is also quite irrelevant, plus it has no solid foundation on which to stand upon.