Originally posted by carver9
That's like saying Black Adam>Supes since he takes on LOADS of top tiers and run through them and this is a consistent thing. Superman is powerful and Cap is powerful as well, both hold back and while holdng back, they are equals, with the gloves off, you can't make assumptions.I seen OWAW... so you are basing that Supes is>Captain Marvel off of one story line? A story that didn't even involve Cap until the end?
No, that's one example. There's also the example of Apokolips Now. Though I don't agree with the way Darkseid was beaten the fact remains that the same Darkseid who was portrayed as a team wrecker got himself wrecked when Superman went all out.
Originally posted by Allankles
I think the scan shows, that she had to stop the HV, otherwise it would have become lethal.
I agree with this, it probably would have become lethal, it probably would have killed her if she allowed it to continue. You said that it goes through top tiers but it didn't go through her and Cap durability>Wondy.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Heh, Black Adam fights heroes who gimp themselves. Martian Manhunter on his own held his own against an all out Black Adam at the beginning of WW3.No, that's one example. There's also the example of Apokolips Now. Though I don't agree with the way Darkseid was beaten the fact remains that the same Darkseid who was portrayed as a team wrecker got himself wrecked when Superman went all out.
Nice feats but none of that proves that Supes is above his peers just like Thor damaging abstract, handling attacks from a pissed Odin, defeating a god killer that was powered by 10000 gods, running through numerous of heralds doesn't put him far above Supes. Even though he has these showings, Supes is still his equal just like Captain Marvel is.
Originally posted by carver9
I read it buddy. I want you to tell me why (Max Lord statement) so that I can own you. Why was it 5 times the speed of light?
If you read it, then why are you saying that Captain Marvel wasn't in OWAW? Huh? If you can't do the thinking, I won't for sure. It's enough to show you how wrong you are 😉.
Originally posted by carver9
Nice feats but none of that proves that Supes is above his peers just like Thor damaging abstract, handling attacks from a pissed Odin, defeating a god killer that was powered by 10000 gods, running through numerous of heralds doesn't put him far above Supes. Even though he has these showings, Supes is still his equal just like Captain Marvel is.
Captain Marvel has no showings/feats that suggest him being comparable to Superman if Superman is going all out.
Period.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
If you read it, then why are you saying that Captain Marvel wasn't in OWAW? Huh? If you can't do the thinking, I won't for sure. It's enough to show you how wrong you are 😉.
Reread my post... I said that he was in the story... he showed up during the end teamed up with Supes, Cap Atom, and Steel. I own the comic nut.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Smh...Captain Marvel has no showings/feats that suggest him being comparable to Superman if Superman is going all out.
Period.
Even though they have been classified as peers? Doesn't make sense to me. Wonder Woman showing>Captain Marvel but its pretty much common sense who would win in a fight.
Originally posted by carver9
Reread my post... I said that he was in the story... he showed up during the end teamed up with Supes, Cap Atom, and Steel. I own the comic nut.
So he was in the story and still Superman was the main man, righhhhht? And superman was above his peers in this story, righhht? Thanks, we agree then^^.
Originally posted by carver9
Even though they have been classified as peers? Doesn't make sense to me. Wonder Woman showing>Captain Marvel but its pretty much common sense who would win in a fight.
Just like Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern are peers to a holding back Superman.
Superman can and has taken it to another level where he's clearly above all of them by some noticeable degree.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
They're peers when Superman is holding back.Just like Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern are peers to a holding back Superman.
Superman can and has taken it to another level where he's clearly above all of them by some noticeable degree.
No, they are equal wen the both of them holds back, we don't know HOW a fight between the 2 will go if they went all out. What top tier has Superman ran through to make you suggest he is above Cap?
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So he was in the story and still Superman was the main man, righhhhht? And superman was above his peers in this story, righhht? Thanks, we agree then^^.
He had a limited showing... 2 panels. The story was focused on Supes. That was Superman highlight just like it was Wonder Woman highlight against Amazo.
Originally posted by carver9
No, they are equal wen the both of them holds back, we don't know HOW a fight between the 2 will go if they went all out. What top tier has Superman ran through to make you suggest he is above Cap?
Comparatively we have normal Superman struggling and needing Mongul's help to defeat just one of the Probes.
DOS Superman (weaker than current btw) stopped holding back and the mere shockwave of his punch colliding with Doomsday (not even hitting the planet directly) caused large scale planet-wide seismic activity.
So this Cap=Superman when both are holding back means that Superman=Cap absolutely and unequivocally is nonsense.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Q99 is perfectly capable of speaking for himself. I'm also allowed to comment as I see fit. If you are going to post on a forum, I would think that you'd expect people to respond. Otherwise you should utilize private messages.And no, disliking WW does not make you a misogynist. Your comments separate from liking or disliking the character were problematic. Understanding that, however, would require a level of comprehension that is probably beyond your intellect. That is a shortcoming I am sure you are used to.
I don't have time for this. You couldn't even think of a good argument without using my words and trying to twist them. You are so pathetic that you tried to use the same style of insult that I used. You have zero originality and are not on the level of Carver or some of the others I talk/argue with.
As far as responding to my post. There are open post that leave room to be responed by everyone, and post directed to certain people. My post was the second kind. You are not Q99, but I will address why you feel the need to protect him in my next paragraph.
You are a person who is insecure about his sexuality, which is why you are trying so hard to understand why you feel like I insulted you when in reality I was insulting Wonder Woman. Your inability to express your feelings to Q99 is not my problem. If you have gay feelings for him or need to protect him then do as you feel. I will no longer be responding to you as I have stuff to do and tend to stay away from those protecting those they love. Jealous women or jealous guy/women who think like women are the worst kind to be around.
Originally posted by carver9
Supes, Cap, Thor, Herc is all the same strength.
Carver I disagree. Superman has feats that are way above what herc has done. Maybe the ability of flight makes Superman seem greater than Herc. I just don't see how you can put him in the convo with Superman.
Can you honestly say that Herc could hang with Superman in a fight? Could hang with Cap? I don't think as versatile as Thor is that Hercules can stand a chance. Should he even be able to hang with Thor?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
No holding back Superman beat Darkseid to a bloody pulp, manhandled Wonder Woman, and tore through a few Imperiex Probes which had previously been punking Top Tiers in groups.Comparatively we have normal Superman struggling and needing Mongul's help to defeat just one of the Probes.
DOS Superman (weaker than current btw) stopped holding back and the mere shockwave of his punch colliding with Doomsday (not even hitting the planet directly) caused large scale planet-wide seismic activity.
So this Cap=Superman when both are holding back means that Superman=Cap absolutely and unequivocally is nonsense.
When has a normal Supes beaten Darkseid to a pulp? When did he manhandle Wonder Woman? I give you the Probes. Did Cap fight any Probes? Wonder Woman mother also took down 3 Probes by herself.
I'm not saying that Supes is weak.
How about this, Thor has some of the best showings vs abstracts, skyfathers, and trans level beings out of ANY Herald. Who is more powerful, Supes or Thor?
Originally posted by Hyperion PrimeWith equal speed Herc can do a lot more than just hang with them in a fight.
Carver I disagree. Superman has feats that are way above what herc has done. Maybe the ability of flight makes Superman seem greater than Herc. I just don't see how you can put him in the convo with Superman.Can you honestly say that Herc could hang with Superman in a fight? Could hang with Cap? I don't think as versatile as Thor is that Hercules can stand a chance. Should he even be able to hang with Thor?
Originally posted by carver9
When has a normal Supes beaten Darkseid to a pulp? When did he manhandle Wonder Woman? I give you the Probes. Did Cap fight any Probes? Wonder Woman mother also took down 3 Probes by herself.I'm not saying that Supes is weak.
How about this, Thor has some of the best showings vs abstracts, skyfathers, and trans level beings out of ANY Herald. Who is more powerful, Supes or Thor?
Infinite Crisis. Though technically speaking he was mind controlled, so its hard to gauge that.
Lol, you've tried to sell this bullshit about 'Lyta before. It didn't fly then it won't fly now.
Hypolyta herself was shocked when she saw Superman tear those probes apart, if she had done it as easily as you suggest why would she be so shocked?
Lol. Most of these showings contain context or are overblown. Do you want me to start including showings where Superman is sunamped/sundipped? Maybe his myriad of high end/bizarre feats in Final Crisis?
But this Thor crap is a Red Herring to distract from the fact that Cap lacks anything to support him being = to a non-holding back Superman. Focus on Cap, not Thor. We aren't discussing Thor here.