Originally posted by Psychotron
No way, man. Drago's got a 2150 PSI punch. That's about 4 tons worth of force. In their rematch Rocky was eating Clubber's shots and asking for more.Also, Rocky is significantly weaker than Drago, and dropped Clubber in 3 rounds, Ivan would destroy him in the 1st.
He was blocking the punches and asking for more. Watch it again. He threw his gloves up to protect his head. Something he did not have to do against Drago
Originally posted by Robtard
Going by Rocky-ratings, Drago's punch is supposed to be about three times more powerful than other boxers.Going by the films.
Lang beat an out of shape Rocky and killed an old man.
Drago killed a retired but still in great shape Creed.
True but Lang was no normal boxer
You can't get around the fact that he absolutely could not take Langs hits but could take Dragos for 15 rounds
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I personally don't see any argument to be made here. Lang did beat, Rocky but we were lead to believe, Rocky had become complacent and relatively out of shape. Once, Rocky employed a realistic and strategic fighting style other than brawling, he pretty much decimated, Lang.
Yes he out smarted Lang. He didn't need to do that against Drago sincemhe could take those punches
Originally posted by Lestov16
What? Did you miss the scene in Rocky 4 where he outright stated to have over twice the punching power of a normal human?Anyways, how is Clubber getting any support here? Drago was an outright superhuman who killed a man (who in the previous film was training Rocky and was in clear great shape here) in the ring nigh-effortlessly.
Rocky rope-a-doped Clubber. Okay. that's a durability feat for Rocky....WTF did Clubber do to make him superior to Drago? Beat an earlier Rocky who was:
A) not taking his training seriously
B blatantly distracted by his loved one dying at that exact moment
What else besides that?Drago's literally built up to be the ultimate fighting machine, akin to a pugilist Terminator. Clubber might arguably be quicker, but he will eventually get hit, and as soon as he does, he will at the very least get disoriented, and from there he gets Apollo-ed.
As far as putting him down, Clubber only lasted as long as he did because Rocky purposely wasn't fighting back to save his strength. Drago on the other hand was trading blows with Rocky for IIRC 15 rounds. I think he can hang with Clubber until he gets an Apollo hit in.
Did you miss the part in Rocky 3 when Rocky could not go punch for punch with Clubber? And then did you miss the part where he went punch for punch with Drago for the whole match? He used nothing but brawling against Drago and won. Clubber made him change it up
No one is saying Drago doesn't hit hard. Super ****ing harf in fact. Just not as hard as Lang. Creed would have survived Lang no doubt about it and that's because he would not have gotten up after the first few hits
Its simple. Rocky took Ivans hits without having to block them and avoid them. I never even brought up the first fight. In the rematch Rocky NEEDED to rope-a-dope Lang to survive. Lang was not the smartest guy. He also NEEDED to dodge and block to win. He did not with Drago
I understand Drago was hyped up and had super high punching power but lets take an honest look at how they both did against the same opponent. Rocky let Drago punch his face off for 15 rounds and was still able to win. He didn't need to change tactics or fight any differently than what he was used to. Against Clubber he had to block his head and wear him out.
Again im not saying Clubber would beat Drago. Drago has stamina and technique over Clubber and that would most likely be all he needs. But he cannot out punch Clubber
Originally posted by Lestov16
Drago's hits were literally sending Rocky flying across the ring. Clubber's hardest punches weren't that powerfulAlso you seem to misunderstand the final R3 fight. Rocky was tanking Clubber's hardest punches to tire him out. He rarely blocked.
Thats just untrue. He blocked and dodge almost all of of them. Only in the second round was he caught
I can post the fight if you want
Originally posted by Lestov16
You do realize that Clubber could only go 3 rounds with Rocky, whereas Drago went [b]fifteen. And again, Drago was destroying Rocky in the first round, literally punching him off his feet. He was far more effective than Lang. [/B]
You know what that means right? Rocky could take his punches unaided for 15 rounds. He took Clubbers punches in half a round and had to change his approach to survive
juggerman, you are ignoring what people are saying. Rocky did not block or dodge most of Lang's hits. He was eating most of his shots, and mocked him throughout the fight. Rocky was out of shape, unmotivated, and emotionally distraught in their first fight, that's the only reason he lost. And finally, Drago went for almost 15 rounds with Rocky before being KOed, Lang couldn't even last 3. And we all know Drago is much stronger than Rocky. I wouldn't be surprised if he kills Clubber in the first round.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Stronger muscles.Are you really going to say that Clubber's couple of knockdown punches are more powerful than Drago's send-people-flying hits?
So chopping down a tree gives you stronger head muscles?
He sent him flying in the first round while Rocky was completely off balance and trying to get up. Why is that impressive?
Originally posted by Psychotron
juggerman, you are ignoring what people are saying. Rocky did not block or dodge most of Lang's hits. He was eating most of his shots, and mocked him throughout the fight. Rocky was out of shape, unmotivated, and emotionally distraught in their first fight, that's the only reason he lost. And finally, Drago went for almost 15 rounds with Rocky before being KOed, Lang couldn't even last 3. And we all know Drago is much stronger than Rocky. I wouldn't be surprised if he kills Clubber in the first round.
Watch the fight /watch?v=wM-lOVgoUqI
He blocks and dodges pretty much all of them