Originally posted by Psychotron
Go and watch the second round of their fight. Rocky was tanking Lang's shots with his face. It's also worth pointing out that Rocky did a fair amount of bobbing and weaving against Drago too.Well, it's pretty important. That's the only time Lang's hits actually effected Rocky.
We must have a different opinion on what tanking is. He bobbed and weaved a whole lot less. In fact I was barely at all against Drago
The only time Rocky didn't block or dodge 90% of them too
Originally posted by Lestov16
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[youtube]1SUzcDUERLoWhen training for Lang, Apollo is teaching him speed and agility. When training for Drago, he is doing clear rigorous strength training, which is why he was much more durable in that fight and didn't need to block like he did with Lang.
His punching strength has no bearing on his ability to take punches to the face
Originally posted by juggerman
We must have a different opinion on what tanking is. He bobbed and weaved a whole lot less. In fact I was barely at all against DragoThe only time Rocky didn't block or dodge 90% of them too
No, he definitely tried to. It's just that Drago is far more skilled than Lang.
90%? No way. Even 50% would be too generous.
Originally posted by Psychotron
No, he definitely tried to. It's just that Drago is far more skilled than Lang.90%? No way. Even 50% would be too generous.
Yes he is more skilled but if you're being honest you know he barely tried to dodge at all. He went in head first like he normally does and took almost every shot to his head
50 is a falsehood. The entire first round he dodged every hit. In the second round for half of it he dodged until he was caught. Then at the end he was blocking. 3rd round it was a mixture where Clubber got maybe 6 good hits in
Originally posted by juggerman
Yes he is more skilled but if you're being honest you know he barely tried to dodge at all. He went in head first like he normally does and took almost every shot to his head50 is a falsehood. The entire first round he dodged every hit. In the second round for half of it he dodged until he was caught. Then at the end he was blocking. 3rd round it was a mixture where Clubber got maybe 6 good hits in
Nah, he def tried.
No way. Hell, Lang knocked Rocky down TWICE in the first round and that didn't even phase Rocky.
Originally posted by juggerman
True but Lang was no normal boxerYou can't get around the fact that he absolutely could not take Langs hits but could take Dragos for 15 rounds
No boxers in Rocky are normal, it's fiction. Rocky being the most cartoonish.
Which fight did you watch, bro? In their second match once Rocky had trained for a bit and focused himself, he was absorbing Lang's head-shots and ouright mocking Lang, which was a shout-out to Ali's style of mind-****ing his opponents with taunts.
From 1:33 to 1:50, Rocky absorbs at least 15 power-shots from Lang (most to the head/face) and then mocks Lang by asking for more.
2:01 he takes a power-shot to the head and doesn't bother trying to block or dodge. Rocky pulled the rope-a-dope like Ali did against Foreman (1974), except he used his body and not the ropes to absorb hit.
So Lang can only last 3 rounds against a decently trained Rocky, while Drago can go 15 rounds against a hardcore Spartan-style trained Rocky and you think Lang could take Drago?
Originally posted by juggerman
Not at all. Post the fight and tell me where he was dodging ok?Not in the second fight4 he didn't he only knocked him down in the second round
Mostly at the beginning really. After that the whole thing devolved into a slugfest.
No, it was twice.
Originally posted by Robtard
No boxers in Rocky are normal, it's fiction. Rocky being the most cartoonish.Which fight did you watch, bro? In their second match once Rocky had trained for a bit and focused himself, he was absorbing Lang's head-shots and ouright mocking Lang, which was a shout-out to Ali's style of mind-****ing his opponents with taunts.
From 1:33 to 1:50, Rocky absorbs at least 15 power-shots from Lang (most to the head/face) and then mocks Lang by asking for more.
2:01 he takes a power-shot to the head and doesn't bother trying to block or dodge. Rocky pulled the rope-a-dope like Ali did against Foreman (1974), except he used his body and not the ropes to absorb hit.
So Lang can only last 3 rounds against a decently trained Rocky, while Drago can go 15 rounds against a hardcore Spartan-style trained Rocky and you think Lang could take Drago?
This should end the debate. Lang had multiple clean hits and Rocky kept coming back for more. For comparison Drago was tossing him around like a rag doll.
Originally posted by Robtard
No boxers in Rocky are normal, it's fiction. Rocky being the most cartoonish.Which fight did you watch, bro? In their second match once Rocky had trained for a bit and focused himself, he was absorbing Lang's head-shots and ouright mocking Lang, which was a shout-out to Ali's style of mind-****ing his opponents with taunts.
From 1:33 to 1:50, Rocky absorbs at least 15 power-shots from Lang (most to the head/face) and then mocks Lang by asking for more.
2:01 he takes a power-shot to the head and doesn't bother trying to block or dodge. Rocky pulled the rope-a-dope like Ali did against Foreman (1974), except he used his body and not the ropes to absorb hit.
So Lang can only last 3 rounds against a decently trained Rocky, while Drago can go 15 rounds against a hardcore Spartan-style trained Rocky and you think Lang could take Drago?
Count them out. He took 4 before the camera panned away. For all we know he blocks the rest, which is highly likely since whem we see him again his hands are up. Then he blocks the rest. Watch it and tell me Lang got clean hits. Rocky had his gloves up to his head and Lang was hitting the gloves not Rocky's head. IOW he was blocking
At 2:01 Rocky blocked the shot just as I've been saying. That hit was not clean. Rocky is protecting his head with his glove
Again I never said Lang would beat Drago. Please look back at my actual stance and debate that instead of making up stances for me.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Mostly at the beginning really. After that the whole thing devolved into a slugfest.No, it was twice.
This should end the debate. Lang had multiple clean hits and Rocky kept coming back for more. For comparison Drago was tossing him around like a rag doll.
Negative. I can post it if you need me to
Wanna bet?
Wrong again. Those were not clean hits. Rocky was protecting his head. Maybe blocking isn't the word I should use exactly but he absorbs the impact with his gloves. He can't take clean shots like he can from Drago
Originally posted by juggerman
Negative. I can post it if you need me toWanna bet?
Wrong again. Those were not clean hits. Rocky was protecting his head. Maybe blocking isn't the word I should use exactly but he absorbs the impact with his gloves. He can't take clean shots like he can from Drago
Go ahead.
Yes.
You're clearly not counting all the body shots. Those hurt like hell.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Go ahead.Yes.
You're clearly not counting all the body shots. Those hurt like hell.
/watch?v=-1pGoHSz6rw
Please point out his attempts to dodge
/watch?v=2oCG8b0lIXw
Here's the fight. As you can clearly see Rocky only goes down in round two. You lose again
The body shots are a whole different animal
Originally posted by juggerman
/watch?v=-1pGoHSz6rwPlease point out his attempts to dodge
/watch?v=2oCG8b0lIXw
Here's the fight. As you can clearly see Rocky only goes down in round two. You lose again
The body shots are a whole different animal
You can see Rocky trying to dodge right in first round. Not very successfully because of Drago's long reach.
Are you blind? Rocky goes down twice in round 2. The second time is like 30-40 seconds after the first one. And that clip has Rocky tank 15+ face shots from Lang without blocking, too.
Originally posted by juggerman
Count them out. He took 4 before the camera panned away. For all we know he blocks the rest, which is highly likely since whem we see him again his hands are up. Then he blocks the rest. Watch it and tell me Lang got clean hits. Rocky had his gloves up to his head and Lang was hitting the gloves not Rocky's head. IOW he was blockingAt 2:01 Rocky blocked the shot just as I've been saying. That hit was not clean. Rocky is protecting his head with his glove
Again I never said Lang would beat Drago. Please look back at my actual stance and debate that instead of making up stances for me.
WTF, dude. He's against the pillar just taking hits that are making his head bobble back and forth in an effort to enrage Lang and you think it's safer to assume he's suddenly dodging and blocking the ones we don't see but only hear?
At 2:01 Rocky has his left hand up and takes the hit to the right side of his head; that hit utterly rocked his head and his body over; it was not blocked.
I misread you then, apologies. Your argument that Lang hits harder is faulty, considering what we know of Drago and how he was specifically portrayed. But that's not the topic, so meh.