Originally posted by quanchi112
He was prepared just not his best.I did.
Leave my iPad out of this, roidrager.
Which is why he lost, when he was at his best rolled over Lang.
The only thing you did was embarrass yourself.
What kind of loser do you have to be to buy an iPad anyway? Your mum didn't want to buy you a PC or something?
Originally posted by Lestov16
Somehow I doubt that will be as catchy as juggerquan. You can hope for the best. Anyways, Drago hits harder, no matter how much you misinterpret the film, B.A. Bottombytch. The reason has been explained ad naseum. Stop being a dumbass and accept the truth, and stop being a phucking juggerquan. It's pathetic and starting to get unbearably annoying.
It doesn't need to be catchy as I'm not trying to be an attention whore like you dickboi. I'm just going with the truth and clearly it's too much for you to handle. Your reasoning is very faulty and hangs on the "we don't see it but we should assume it cuz reasons" stance which is flawed at best but more often than not, like right now, it's just plain retarded. You need to keep that temper in check cock rider
Originally posted by Psychotron
Bwahaha. Are you even trying at this point? Rocky didn't go on the offense until the last round. Lang hit him a lot more, Rocky just had much better durability.What am I agreeing with? That Rocky started mocking Lang? That he treated him like the loser that he was? Something he wouldn't dare do against Drago. Because that's all I'm saying.
It doesn't change the fact that it happened after Drago, not Lang. If Lang was stronger than Drago he would have been the one to do it.
Are you retarded? Serious question. How many times do we have to explain to you that muscle does automatically mean better durability? It protects your vital organs, and neck muscle prevents your head from turning rapidly, which is what causes a KO.
And more lies. So Rocky didn't run up to Lang in the first round and take the fight to him? He didn't go right at Lang punching away? You are the worse kind of troll. Your not even twisting facts anymore, you're outright making up events.
It's been explained already. If you can't grasp the concept then I guess it's a moot point
That's pretty shitty reasoning. Drago was allowed a lot more free hits to his face and head and therefore had more of a chance to cause damage. If a weight lifting champ punched you twice in the head and it didn't cause you brain damage but then a random punk punched you 200 times in the head and you did get brain damage then clearly the punk is more responsible. Does that make the punk stronger now? Just stop and think.
Again it's a pointless point since having more muscle does not automatically mean you are more durable. I've seen big muscly dudes get KO'd very quickly and small skinny guys take ass whoopings and still stand.
Originally posted by juggerman
It doesn't need to be catchy as I'm not trying to be an attention whore like you dickboi. I'm just going with the truth and clearly it's too much for you to handle. Your reasoning is very faulty and hangs on the "we don't see it but we should assume it cuz reasons" stance which is flawed at best but more often than not, like right now, it's just plain retarded. You need to keep that temper in check cock rider
Whatever floats your boat, juggerquan.
Anyways, as Psychotron asked, are you a phucking retard? Muscle doesn't build durability? What kind of pipsqueak out-of-shape idiot are you that you don't know how simple exercise works?
Originally posted by juggerman
And more lies. So Rocky didn't run up to Lang in the first round and take the fight to him? He didn't go right at Lang punching away? You are the worse kind of troll. Your not even twisting facts anymore, you're outright making up events.It's been explained already. If you can't grasp the concept then I guess it's a moot point
That's pretty shitty reasoning. Drago was allowed a lot more free hits to his face and head and therefore had more of a chance to cause damage. If a weight lifting champ punched you twice in the head and it didn't cause you brain damage but then a random punk punched you 200 times in the head and you did get brain damage then clearly the punk is more responsible. Does that make the punk stronger now? Just stop and think.
Again it's a pointless point since having more muscle does not automatically mean you are more durable. I've seen big muscly dudes get KO'd very quickly and small skinny guys take ass whoopings and still stand.
Why don't we count the punches if you're so sure? I'm willing to bet anything Lang hit Rocky more times than Rocky hit him.
As your butt-buddy says "concession accepted".
However, in this case it's more like the punk punching you 100 times and then the weight lifting champion punching you 200 times, since Drago has on-screen feats to prove that he has superhuman punches, and your boy toy Mr. T doesn't.
Yes, it does. It's already been explained to you how muscle helps, and those "muscly guys" would have been even weaker without it, while those skinny guys would have been even tougher with some extra muscle. Muscle is not the only factor, but it is a factor.
Originally posted by PsychotronHe lost due to not having the eye or creed speed as well as not tiring Lang out.
Which is why he lost, when he was at his best rolled over Lang.The only thing you did was embarrass yourself.
What kind of loser do you have to be to buy an iPad anyway? Your mum didn't want to buy you a PC or something?
Irony.
I have a pc and an iPad, dummy.
🙂
Apple sux.
Also, Drago's official recorded punching strength is more than double Olympic record holders, meaning in the world of Rocky (which I think is part cartoon), Drago is the strongest puncher, bar none. The idea that Lang punches harder lacks any conclusive or even debatable evidence. Juggerquan and quan sr. are just arguing against reason here.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Whatever floats your boat, juggerquan.Anyways, as Psychotron asked, are you a phucking retard? Muscle doesn't build durability? What kind of pipsqueak out-of-shape idiot are you that you don't know how simple exercise works?
Ok then dickboi
I was responding to his theory that all muscle bound people are more durable than non muscle bound people. Please pay attention
Originally posted by Psychotron
Why don't we count the punches if you're so sure? I'm willing to bet anything Lang hit Rocky more times than Rocky hit him.As your butt-buddy says "concession accepted".
However, in this case it's more like the punk punching you 100 times and then the weight lifting champion punching you 200 times, since Drago has on-screen feats to prove that he has superhuman punches, and your boy toy Mr. T doesn't.
Yes, it does. It's already been explained to you how muscle helps, and those "muscly guys" would have been even weaker without it, while those skinny guys would have been even tougher with some extra muscle. Muscle is not the only factor, but it is a factor.
Go ahead an count away. Lemme know when you're ready to admit you're wrong.
You agree with me here now so it is I that accepts your concession
So you agree that Drago punching him more would have a greater effect than Clubber punching him much less no matter which was technically stronger right? Great Concession accepted again
Your statement was about two totally different people, one with muscle and one with much less. Your theory was proven wrong. If you would like to alter it now and say the same person with two different sizes then we can do so. But as is your point has been thoroughly destroyed
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Apple sux.Also, Drago's official recorded punching strength is more than double Olympic record holders, meaning in the world of Rocky (which I think is part cartoon), Drago is the strongest puncher, bar none. The idea that Lang punches harder lacks any conclusive or even debatable evidence. Juggerquan and quan sr. are just arguing against reason here.
According to Rocky, Drago's hits were tolerable while Lang's were not. You can bring up Drago's power but since we never see a recorded hit from Lang we must judge by them fighting the same opponent
Originally posted by juggerman
According to Rocky, Drago's hits were tolerable while Lang's were not. You can bring up Drago's power but since we never see a recorded hit from Lang we must judge by them fighting the same opponent
This is functionally retarded for several reasons:
1. Drago's punching power more than doubles real world records. The idea that Lang's are stronger still requires definitive evidence, not "IMO".
2. Rocky did strength and durability training to hang with Drago and was in arguably the best shape of his life. With less training and experience, he tanked Lang and knocked him the **** out.
3. Saying "ur wrong, therefore I am right" does not make sense. Either you have conclusive, undisputed proof that Lang hits harder than Drago or you concede. Your opinion and ignoring movie context is not convincing and it's becoming boorish.
Google any words which you didn't get, like boorish, concede, or conclusive.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
This is functionally retarded for several reasons:1. Drago's punching power more than doubles real world records. The idea that Lang's are stronger still requires definitive evidence, not "IMO".
2. Rocky did strength and durability training to hang with Drago and was in arguably the best shape of his life. With less training and experience, he tanked Lang and knocked him the **** out.
3. Saying "ur wrong, therefore I am right" does not make sense. Either you have [b]conclusive, undisputed proof that Lang hits harder than Drago
or you concede. Your opinion and ignoring movie context is not convincing and it's becoming boorish.Google any words which you didn't get, like boorish, concede, or conclusive. [/B]
1. Lang's punches were never recorded as far as we know so saying "well Drago's were so his were stronger" doesn't work.
2. He didn't tank Lang's shots. In fact he actively tried to avoid getting hit. Not the case with Drago
3. I didn't say that at all. The proof is in their fights with Rocky. There is only one man's punches in the series that Rocky could not walk thru. It was not Drago.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Why don't we count the punches if you're so sure? I'm willing to bet anything Lang hit Rocky more times than Rocky hit him.
Here this should help you:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/05/rocky-iii-fight-breakdown-mr-t-birthday
Now since you were "willing to bet anything" I'll say you are lucky I didn't ask for a bet. All I'd like is that you admit you were wrong.
Originally posted by juggerman
1. Lang's punches were never recorded as far as we know so saying "well Drago's were so his were stronger" doesn't work.
Except that Drago is clearly breaking conventional norms for even professionals with objective, measurable means. Subjective lowballing and ignoring that Lang beat an out of shape Rocky compared to Drago fighting Rocky at his peak is confirmation bias.
This is simple:
My assertion of Drago's superiority in punching is objectively backed up by measurable, verifiable evidence of him more than doubling world records and means.
Your assertion merely uses subjective feelings and pretends that Rocky is a static figure instead of a variable in both films.
2. He didn't tank Lang's shots. In fact he actively tried to avoid getting hit. Not the case with Drago
See above.
3. I didn't say that at all. The proof is in their fights with Rocky. There is only one man's punches in the series that Rocky could not walk thru. It was not Drago.
Because Rocky has the exact same durability and training in both films, right?