DCU gets remade - all books are #1s, Geoff Johns and Jim Lee on Justice League, more

Started by -Pr-367 pages

Your unflinching optimism worries me.

Slightly on topic:

^^ That's because I approved of many changes they have made. And I'm not the only one. Plus, I don't even know which changes are going to be made in the first place, but if it involves more indie talent, I'm all for it.

Anyway, Lemire will be writing a Rip Hunter Vertigo series.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=43030

Originally posted by Golgo13
Which ones have slammed DC? Gail didn't. She got removed and was replaced again.

George Perez did. Rob Liefeld did (and sure, his art sucks, but he's supposed to be super-easy to work with). I think Ron Marz did when he was canned before issue 4 of his book came out.

There's been a lot of reports of conflicting orders and changes being ordered to be made then un-ordered and replaced with new orders.

Part of the reason people were so shocked by the Gail thing is she's one of their biggest cheerleaders.

There's no denying they have some good creators, but there's been really high turnover among them and lots of internal complaints.

Originally posted by Q99
George Perez did. Rob Liefeld did (and sure, his art sucks, but he's supposed to be super-easy to work with). I think Ron Marz did when he was canned before issue 4 of his book came out.

There's been a lot of reports of conflicting orders and changes being ordered to be made then un-ordered and replaced with new orders.

Part of the reason people were so shocked by the Gail thing is she's one of their biggest cheerleaders.

There's no denying they have some good creators, but there's been really high turnover among them and lots of internal complaints.

Some of the turnover is because of books that don't sell. Edmonson on Grifter being one. And it's not like the creators are quitting in mass. Rob liefield doesn't really count, because he has such a poor attitude (DC hardly isn't the only company). He was brought in to raise the sells on books, but didn't do it.

And look at the big titles. Ones that DO sell. Not much turnover rate there.

Again, if a book doesn't sell well, it's natural for a company to replace the creator and get someone who will. Example, Ann being replaced by DC's top talent, Lemire. At least they got a shot.

DC seems like an absolutely shitty place to work, tbh. Very few writers have had much good to say about the company from an internal point of view. It almost seems like the higher-ups at DC have no respect for the creation staff, and could care less who writes what, so long as the comics get finished by someone on time. Bad business.

Oh and please don't respond to my post, Golgo. Not offense, but I really don't want to hear your 'DC can do no wrong' rant this early in the morning.

On another note, is Captain Atom cancelled now?

I never said DC can do no wrong, so stop putting words in my mouth, Galan. For the thousandth time.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I never said DC can do no wrong, so stop putting words in my mouth, Galan. For the thousandth time.

😂 That's how I feel about your comments towards me.

Look, I never said DC can do no wrong. I'm still really bitter on how they handled John Rozum's situation and not giving him another book. He would have shined on Phantom Stranger and those types of books.

Originally posted by Galan007
DC seems like an absolutely shitty place to work, tbh. Very few writers have had much good to say about the company from an internal point of view. It almost seems like the higher-ups at DC have no respect for the creation staff, and could care less who writes what, so long as the comics get finished by someone on time. Bad business.

Oh and please don't respond to my post, Golgo. Not offense, but I really don't want to hear your 'DC can do no wrong' rant this early in the morning.

Pretty much; that's how it seems to come across unless your Johns or Snyder.

What is Holy Shit month?'

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/01/09/in-april-dc-comics-brings-us-holy-sht-month/

Sorrentino's art in Green Arrow is jawsome!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=14831

I saw that yesterday... It seemed to be not worth thinking about once i'd closed the tab. Need more info.

Did you read his interviews? If not, here is a new one.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=43062

About Green Arrow? Yes, I read it.

Warner Bros Wins Big In Superman Copyright Case

Yeah I saw that. Maybe now we can rest easy.

I do wonder if N52 Superman will start to revert to Preboot at all, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah I saw that. Maybe now we can rest easy.

I do wonder if N52 Superman will start to revert to Preboot at all, though.


I doubt that. I prefer DCnU superman over marvelized post-crisis superman. They can start clark/lois romance soon now when she's not going anywhere.

"marvelized"?

Clark and Lois will eventually happen; I think that's a certainty. I doubt it will be soon though, If Johns has anything to say about it.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Some of the turnover is because of books that don't sell. Edmonson on Grifter being one. And it's not like the creators are quitting in mass. Rob liefield doesn't really count, because he has such a poor attitude (DC hardly isn't the only company). He was brought in to raise the sells on books, but didn't do it.

Rob was hired because he can handle multiple books at once reliably and quickly. They *just* gave him multiple books before he cut ties. He's also known as being easy to work with.

And Perez quit due to having to constantly revise stuff and having to work around not knowing what other Superman people were doing. He's a long time industry pro's pro.


And look at the big titles. Ones that DO sell. Not much turnover rate there.

George Perez was on Superman with good sales. Almost Gail Simone, her Batgirl is one of the big successes of the relaunch sales wise.

And most of the premier titles are Morrison, Snyder, and Johns, so that's not saying much when you're not talking many writers.

Most other writers are ending up with pretty short runs and a lot of switching around, it seems, and have to put up with more revisions. If you have to do that, well, duh no wonder sales aren't great.

Again, if a book doesn't sell well, it's natural for a company to replace the creator and get someone who will. Example, Ann being replaced by DC's top talent, Lemire. At least they got a shot.

But several are just quitting due to repeated conflicting orders from bosses. Others were replaced when they had reasonable sales and before there was any way to judge long-term stability (Ron Marz).