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This whole thing with editorial sticking their noses in is really starting to grate. They're not there to dictate stories. They're there to make sure the writer is doing his job.

I think bob harass should be replaced.

Originally posted by -Pr-
This whole thing with editorial sticking their noses in is really starting to grate. They're not there to dictate stories. They're there to make sure the writer is doing his job.

Exactly! The line editor makes sure the general direction is set too, but that's something done at the beginning *with* the writer, it's not micromanaging.

Originally posted by Q99
Exactly! The line editor makes sure the general direction is set too, but that's something done at the beginning *with* the writer, it's not micromanaging.

I think it's no coincidence that DC's best comics all tend to come from writers who are given a wide berth.

I can literally see someone like johns or Morrison laughing in the face of an editor trying to tell them what to do.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I think it's no coincidence that DC's best comics all tend to come from writers who are given a wide berth.

Indeed.

Compare to Marvel, where they get all their writers together, say, "Ok, we're all at point A. You need to get to point B in X amount of time. How you do that is up to you, now go do your thing." There's strong editorial presence, but they do it in a way that doesn't trip up the writers and lets them use their voice.

DC has great writers, if they had marvel-style editorial they could've really soared.

I can literally see someone like johns or Morrison laughing in the face of an editor trying to tell them what to do.

Well, Johns pretty much is one of the bosses, but yea, I can totally see Morrison laughing ^^

I was speaking more about before that, but yeah. And yeah, that's true about Marvel. With Gillen for instance with the whole Colossus debacle, you could see him trying to make the best out of a shitty situation.

DC's best books, IMO are:
Dial H
Action Comics
I, Vampire
Aquaman
JLA
JL
JL Dark

All have little editorial it seems.

I actually really liked issue 2 of JLA. The first issue, I was really underwhelmed by.

Superman has also gotten pretty good since Lobdell and Beganza came on board.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman has also gotten pretty good since Lobdell and Beganza came on board.

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I really liked H'el on Earth. Though I still have to get the Supergirl/boy tie ins which REALLY pissed me off as I thought the story wouldn't jump too much without reading them, though I still got the main gist of everything.

Really looking forward to Orion and Superman throwing down.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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I really liked H'el on Earth. Though I still have to get the Supergirl/boy tie ins which REALLY pissed me off as I thought the story wouldn't jump too much without reading them, though I still got the main gist of everything.

Really looking forward to Orion and Superman throwing down.

Same. Should be good, and any kind of showing for Orion will do wonders for him when taking Superman's feats in to consideration.

What did you think of Morrison's last issue of Action?

Felt very...well, Morrison-y to me. Lol.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What did you think of Morrison's last issue of Action?

Felt very...well, Morrison-y to me. Lol.

Yeah, though I expected it to be better, tbh. It felt like he was trying too hard to wrap everything up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, though I expected it to be better, tbh. It felt like he was trying too hard to wrap everything up.

Same. Though, I really liked his take on Doomsday. Thought it was a neat and albeit radical spin on the character, but when the heat vision melted his face mask and revealed his visage, the fanboy in me was like "What you did there, I see it" lol

Did anyone read the last Aquaman? Ice King or whatever his name is looks col.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Same. Though, I really liked his take on Doomsday. Thought it was a neat and albeit radical spin on the character, but when the heat vision melted his face mask and revealed his visage, the fanboy in me was like "What you did there, I see it" lol

Hmm?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Did anyone read the last Aquaman? Ice King or whatever his name is looks col.

Yeah, it wasn't bad.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hmm?

^ That dude.

I thought the Superdoom/Doomsday thing was actually really cool and one of Morrison's better spins on the Superman mythos.

I might just be too tired, but why?

Well, Superdoom/Doomsday, to me, seemed to be a commentary on society wanting things to be "edgy" and "hip", and he was basically a brand that people wore and put on their products and was "badass". But he lacked humanity and just winded up becoming a monster than destroyed everything and was constantly growing more unstoppable by the thought.

Again, very Morrison-y, but in this case, I think it worked out, especially when they revealed his face and it looked like the classic Doomsday we're all familiar with.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, Superdoom/Doomsday, to me, seemed to be a commentary on society wanting things to be "edgy" and "hip", and he was basically a brand that people wore and put on their products and was "badass". But he lacked humanity and just winded up becoming a monster than destroyed everything and was constantly growing more unstoppable by the thought.

Again, very Morrison-y, but in this case, I think it worked out, especially when they revealed his face and it looked like the classic Doomsday we're all familiar with.

Oh that. Yeah, I suppose I can see that.