DCU gets remade - all books are #1s, Geoff Johns and Jim Lee on Justice League, more

Started by -Pr-367 pages

There's still a lack of consistency when it comes to Superman, though, like Jake said.

It's just more glaring when you add someone like Diana in to the mix.

I have no problem with the Diana/Superman relationship, tbh. More exciting than Lois or anyone else.

Originally posted by -Pr-
There's still a lack of consistency when it comes to Superman, though, like Jake said.

It's just more glaring when you add someone like Diana in to the mix.

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I'm open minded enough to sit back and enjoy the ride with Clark/Diana, much like I did with other "radical" changes such as Jean Paul Valley becoming Batman, Superman dying, Wonder Woman getting depowered, etc.

For someone like Superman, especially him, there should be a clear line of rapport with each writer where they reveal "Okay, here's the theme of my upcoming run" and get everyone in the know so it all meshes well and builds upon each other. It doesn't need to crossover, but they do need to coincide with one another for important reveals and development such as Superman having a romantic interest.

Having one writer, arguably the "superstar" or "main eventer" in the company handle a relationship with Clark and Diana, and having others more or less handle it with Clark coming off as butt hurt over being friendzoned by Lois in the first place just comes off as inconsistent.

Now, if the intent was to make Clark more relatable by being in a relationship because of want and still harboring feelings for "the one that got away", okay, that's cool. But that's not the impression I get from the line as a whole.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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I'm open minded enough to sit back and enjoy the ride with Clark/Diana, much like I did with other "radical" changes such as Jean Paul Valley becoming Batman, Superman dying, Wonder Woman getting depowered, etc.

For someone like Superman, especially him, there should be a clear line of rapport with each writer where they reveal "Okay, here's the theme of my upcoming run" and get everyone in the know so it all meshes well and builds upon each other. It doesn't need to crossover, but they do need to coincide with one another for important reveals and development such as Superman having a romantic interest.

I think they were doing that, because in an live interview with Diggle, he said they were (All superman writers) coming together and planning a big epic Superman story, which probably won't happen, since he walked away. And seeing as Lobdell knows what Pak is doing in his run, Superman line seems more organized.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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I'm open minded enough to sit back and enjoy the ride with Clark/Diana, much like I did with other "radical" changes such as Jean Paul Valley becoming Batman, Superman dying, Wonder Woman getting depowered, etc.

For someone like Superman, especially him, there should be a clear line of rapport with each writer where they reveal "Okay, here's the theme of my upcoming run" and get everyone in the know so it all meshes well and builds upon each other. It doesn't need to crossover, but they do need to coincide with one another for important reveals and development such as Superman having a romantic interest.

Having one writer, arguably the "superstar" or "main eventer" in the company handle a relationship with Clark and Diana, and having others more or less handle it with Clark coming off as butt hurt over being friendzoned by Lois in the first place just comes off as inconsistent.

Now, if the intent was to make Clark more relatable by being in a relationship because of want and still harboring feelings for "the one that got away", okay, that's cool. But that's not the impression I get from the line as a whole.

That's because that's not what's happening. Clark and Lois were making googley eyes at each other in Diggle's Action, and the latest issue of Superman, while still featuring Diana, was just...

Superman wouldn't date a woman if he was actively interested in someone else. He's too decent a person to be that much of a ****.

DCnU Superman is more of a player than his PF self. 😉

Originally posted by Golgo13
DCnU Superman is more of a player than his PF self. 😉

I don't think the word "player" applies at all in this instance.

If anything, he seems almost whiney.

Is he still a teen? Or in his 20's?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Is he still a teen? Or in his 20's?

He's around mid-twenties, i'd say.

Here is John's last GL issue! I won't say I'm gonna miss you, but you built a huge cosmo/GL mythos that was pretty good.

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=5023&page=2

I hope the new guy is good, and we get less Simon Baz.

If Superman is in his mid-twenties, then Batman's gotta at least be in his 30s, even with the reboot.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If Superman is in his mid-twenties, then Batman's gotta at least be in his 30s, even with the reboot.

DC does seem to be making the disparity in their age a little large than it was before the reboot. Probably because Superman is still growing, whereas Bruce is basically, well... Bruce.

In a couple of years, I expect them to be normalised.

Johns royally ****ed up the Aquaman timeline, though.

So, I jumped off Superman comics for a while because I didn't want to bother getting cross over titles for H'el on Earth. Tried jumping back in on number 19.

The dialogue is worse than New Guardians. And that's saying something. The art, IMO, is the only good thing about it.

Speaking of superman, if Orion does well against superman does that mean Dcnu orion > pre flashpoint orion? Lobdell is hinting of a crazy knock down battlle.

We don't know the full details, so it could or could not be the entire multiverse.

uh...Superman needs to appear in Diana's book. I'm wondering how WW's writer will handle it.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
uh...Superman needs to appear in Diana's book. I'm wondering how WW's writer will handle it.

Azzarello has written Superman before, and quite well, so I wouldn't be worried if he was writing him.

Did you guys see this?

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/CYBORG-SUPERMAN-New-52-Comeback.html

And more info on Relic.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/robert-Venditti-new-green-lantern-villain-relic.html