ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Maul.

Started by RE: Blaxican6 pages
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
[B]You mean Qui-Gon, who was Council-material

Yes, obviously one's ability with a lightsaber is taken into account when deciding who is council material.

and Anoon Bondara, who was "Second to none" in saber combat? Those two featless wonders?

Yes, unless you're aware of some feats Anoon displayed that I'm not aware of? As far as I know, the only thing he has to his name is a single ambiguous quote.

Ambiguous?

It's an adjective, and roughly means "can be interpreted different ways".

Adjective?

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Originally posted by RE: Blaxican

Yes, obviously one's ability with a lightsaber is taken into account when deciding who is council material.

What you think its just a coincidence that the 2 heads of the Council are also the 2 most powerful jedi in the order?? Or that Fisto, Kolar, Tiin (some of the best swordsmen in the history of the jedi) are all council members??

The council tends to have the most powerful jedi masters. With the exception of people like Qui-Gon who dnt follow the code.

In any case we know Qui-Gon was one of the best swordsmen of TPM era.

No.

Blax, would you mind indulging in activities befitting racial stereotypes and 'splain how the quote concerning Anoon is ambiguous?

Spoiler:
Does "second to none" refer to political power? I doubt it, as Janus would have been the first one to point it out.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
...would you mind indulging in activities befitting racial stereotypes and 'splain how the quote concerning Anoon is ambiguous?

Spoiler:
Does "second to none" refer to political power? I doubt it, as Janus would have been the first one to point it out.
Not abigiuous, but a fallible opinion w/ little to zero evidence to support it.

Indeed. IIRC the quote comes from his apprentice, does it not?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Indeed. IIRC the quote comes from his apprentice, does it not?
Yeah!! No bias there, right?

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican

Yes, obviously one's ability with a lightsaber is taken into account when deciding who is council material.

Good point 🙂

It probably is factored in during wartime, but during peace? No reason just being so-so with a blade wouldn't be enough if you're a good enough diplomat (/whatever).

Darth Power

What you think its just a coincidence that the 2 heads of the Council are also the 2 most powerful jedi in the order?? Or that Fisto, Kolar, Tiin (some of the best swordsmen in the history of the jedi) are all council members??

Tiin's not even noted as one of the best at the time, let alone history. And I find the claim of Kolar being one of the best in history highly questionable, for that matter ^^; The only one of those three who I think lives up to the hype is Fisto, and in-universe he was just said to be one of the best of the current order, not in all it's history.

It's certainly not a coincidence that the best duelists like Windu and Kenobi are in the council, but it's likely more on the side of "The best at any area of Jedi skill can get in," rather than saber skill specifically being a requirement of being in the council.

Personally I'd say the best thing Qui-gon has to show is he taught Obi-Wan.

JT
Not abigiuous,

👆

Its still fallible though.

Originally posted by RagingBoner
Blax, would you mind indulging in activities befitting racial stereotypes and 'splain how the quote concerning Anoon is ambiguous?

Spoiler:
Does "second to none" refer to political power? I doubt it, as Janus would have been the first one to point it out.
"Second to none" is one of the most commonly used hyperbolic statements used in the English language. Why is everyone assuming that the author is being literal, and not using hyperbole to say "He's really good"? It can be interpreted in different ways. There's no context to the quote in regards to what pool of fighters Anoon is being compared to. Is the author only comparing him to fighters in his era, or is he talking about in the entire history of the mythos up until that point? What does the author mean when he says "technical skill"? Is he throwing the word technical in there to emphasize that there are aspects of dueling that he does not have unsurpassed skill in? When he says technical is he referring to a mechanical knowledge, or pragmatic application?

These are all questions that I'm sure everyone can answer, however, there is nothing that points to one interpretation being more valid than another, hence, it is ambiguous.

N.
Its still fallible though.

I'm not saying it isn't.

Edit: fvcking private message bullshit. Why don't they put the entire post in the reply post? Its just fvcking idiotic.

Spoiler:
Wrong thread.

I know, but I needed to write it in this one beause the fvcking reply option doesn't put the whole post in the reply for some arbitrary bullshit reason.

Also sorry for all the spelling mistakes. It's like 6 in the morning over here.