The Avengers vs. The Dark Knight Rises (opening nite & wknd)

Started by Golgo1329 pages

Comparing the movies is pointless. TDKR is a war/crime drama, Avengers is pure super-hero. Two entirely different films.

Originally posted by Golgo13
TDKR is tracking 31% ahead of TDK in foreign markets. And it still has China and other markets ahead of it. It will gross more than TDK and this is without the 3-D gimmick.

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3496&p=.htm

Originally posted by Earlier by Me
That should put to rest the theory that TDK only made that much money due to Heath's death.
Originally posted by roughrider
Spider Man does have a great batting average, though; not accounting for inflation, each of the four films has done $800 million worldwide on average.

Well we have yet to see if TASM will make $800m. Looks unlikely as it's takings have drastically slowed down since the release of TDKR. And it's not even 2nd or 3rd at the box office now.

Whilst it looks like the last 2 Batman movies will have passed the Billion mark. The only reason Batman Begins didn't make similar figures was due to lack of hype and excitement for the series at that point. (The previous Batman film being Batman & Robin).

As for inflation, yes that would put Ramai's movies in the same ball park as TDK and TDKR. But let's not forget Spiderman 3 was released only a year before TDK, yet TDK made considerably more. And that's despite the fact the Spiderman movies appeal much more to the children and family market.

Originally posted by roughrider
But both characters are respectfully the flagship solo heroes for Marvel & DC, right now. Iron Man is currently third, but what's made his success so terrific is how unknown he was outside of comic circles - in comparison to the decades of media exposure Spider Man & Batman got elsewhere, prior to their movie series.

Yes.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
ASM suffered from Rami's Spiderman 3. It's like when Batman Begin came out after Batman & Robin.
indeed. IMO had this been the first spidy it would have done great!

Originally posted by Newjak
I liked ASM about as much as I liked TDKR.

Which isn't a knock against TDKR.

I just really liked the new spider-man a lot.

I liked it a lot myself. More so then the TDKR imo.

Originally posted by TheHulk
I'm Going With The Avengers 🙂

as do most people lol. In general TDKR has more negative reviews then the avengers. though I don't really believe they can be compared by anything other then enjoyment level really.

TDKR should cross 900M after this weekend and has even out grossed TA in most parts of Europe, while TA has out grossed in most part of Asia. It should do about 445 and gross 1B World Wide. One of the very few movies which has done this without the aid of 3-D. And a month into this? It's at 18 on IMDB's 250. Not bad as what some people making it out, certainly ranks better than any other super-hero movie, for the exception of TDK.

well what I was referring to was on rotten tomatoes TDKR has 36 rotten reviews while the avengers only have 19 rotten reviews. TDK has 18 rotten reviews. So im not saying it was a terrible movie only that The Avengers seems to have less negative reviews.

The Avengers has 21 rotten and their average rating are both 8/10. There are also critics that just don't like Nolan at all, so that also brings down the score. But if you like to look at ratings, there are other sites. TDKR scored better on Metacritic than TA. Either way, I gauge by IMDB as there are more volume of people rating movies and TDKR is higher, but slipping.

all the 21 means is it got 2 more from the time I last posted because it was at 19 when I posted that. Either way it doesn't change the fact that TDKR has 36 rotten. So like I said. Anyways I wouldn't know anything about meta critic as I have never been there but now plan on making a stop in. In any event IMDB is a fine place to by the reviews. I have stayed away from basing anything on that since I discovered(for TDKR at least) the stupidity of the rating. People on that site are rating it at 10 who hadn't seen it. While people are also rating it at 1 who haven't seen it. But to deny it has gotten more negative reviews then The Avengers is just silly imo because not even going by review sites (people I come across in general) are giving it lower ratings. Im not saying it was a bad movie...though it wasn't my favorite. All im saying is more people in my experience enjoyed the avengers more.

Yeah, there are some shady people on IMDB. Either way, I thought both were very good movies.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yeah, there are some shady people on IMDB. Either way, I thought both were very good movies.

Indeed they were both on top of their respective genre. Though imo I would have enjoyed the dark knight rises a lot more with a few changes. To each their own though.

BTW, anyone see the adjusted for inflation gross of all time? Avengers is at #27 with $617,446,423, while TDK is at 29 with $595,742,300. TDK was a beast back then.

Interesting. How was this adjusted? All total ticket sales or did they subtract the IMAX and 3D?

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Interesting. How was this adjusted? All total ticket sales or did they subtract the IMAX and 3D?

I don't think they subtracted IMAX or 3-D, just adjusted it for this time period. Like how much TDK would have made today. Here is the list. What do you guys think of the list in general?

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

Doesn't surprise me Batman 89 beat DKR.

TDKR has surpassed the 1 billion mark officially now, I didn't think it would beat TDK much less pass the 1 billion mark.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batman3.htm

Makes me wonder just how successfull a Justice League movie can be if done right.

Should do around 1.1B WW and 445M domestically. Incredible run. Batman easily surpassed Spider-Man WW and took the crown from Spidey. It's also holding pretty strong on IMDB. solid 8.9 rating, while Avengers dropped to 8.5.

Originally posted by Golgo13
BTW, anyone see the adjusted for inflation gross of all time? Avengers is at #27 with $617,446,423, while TDK is at 29 with $595,742,300. TDK was a beast back then.

I stopped paying attention to All Time Box Office Championships after Titanic, because inflation skewers the numbers. Everything should be subtitled 'Modern Box Office Championships' & such.
The Dark Knight Rises is big, even more so than The Dark Knight in the end (didn't see that happening.) The Avengers is still bigger, even when you take into account a few more dollars per ticket due to the 3D charge.

Originally posted by roughrider
I stopped paying attention to All Time Box Office Championships after Titanic, because inflation skewers the numbers. Everything should be subtitled 'Modern Box Office Championships' & such.
The Dark Knight Rises is big, even more so than The Dark Knight in the end (didn't see that happening.) The Avengers is still bigger, even when you take into account a few more dollars per ticket due to the 3D charge.

Domestically, TDK is bigger than TDKR. It's bigger overseas, because TDKR opened up in more markets.

Originally posted by roughrider
I stopped paying attention to All Time Box Office Championships after Titanic, because inflation skewers the numbers. Everything should be subtitled 'Modern Box Office Championships' & such.
The Dark Knight Rises is big, even more so than The Dark Knight in the end (didn't see that happening.) The Avengers is still bigger, even when you take into account a few more dollars per ticket due to the 3D charge.

I always thought the "3-D Gimmick" wasn't as much of a gimmick as people think. I don't like it myself but my point is TDKR had IMAX with one IMAX ticket cost more then a normal 3D ticket. Granted The Avengers had IMAX and IMAX 3D but I read in an article a few months ago that about half of its income was 3D but only 8% of it's total came from IMAX.

TDKR being a solo hero film and being able to topple the 1 billion dollar mark twice is impressive imo. Makes you wonder how a JLA movie will actually do when you get Supes and Bats onscreen at once.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I always thought the "3-D Gimmick" wasn't as much of a gimmick as people think. I don't like it myself but my point is TDKR had IMAX with one IMAX ticket cost more then a normal 3D ticket. Granted The Avengers had IMAX and IMAX 3D but I read in an article a few months ago that about half of its income was 3D but only 8% of it's total came from IMAX.
Where I live it costs $3 dollars more for a 3D ticket price so it does add up.