The Avengers vs. The Dark Knight Rises (opening nite & wknd)

Originally posted by spidermanrocks
Not sure if anyone brought this up but TDKR already beat TDK at the box office. I WISH that I could say "I told you so because Nolan is a great director" but I can't.

I remember when TDK first came out, a lot of people were saying the only reason it did well was because of Ledger's death. I never believed that for a second and always argued that the movie did well because it was a very good movie overall yet they would always shut me down by saying that it wouldn't have made even half the money it made if it weren't for Heath dying. Before this movie came out, I was really hoping for it to make over a billion at the box office and top TDK and this time, people couldn't argue that it was due to an actor's death thus I could have said the reason it did well was because the movie was very well done 🙂 and it would have also proved that TDK didn't make over $1 billion just because of Heath's death.

Then TDKR came out and I saw it, I disliked it and began to criticize it. Although it is an OK movie (not a great movie; just an OK movie), I think it has tons of flaws, plot holes, and things that just don't make sense/add up. I also think it is a terrible Batman adaptation and sequel to BB and TDK. I found it to be a huge letdown and very overrated. And now it topped TDK at the box office and all the Nolan fanboys (and no, not everyone that loves TDKR is a Nolan fanboy) are rubbing it in my face and are saying the movie is well done due to that. Funny how ironic life can be, eh? LOL

You can attribute a lot of the success of TDKR to the fantastic movie TDK was. That's what built up the hype.

Plus there's obviously a lot of people who love TDKR as well, but generally there was much more love for TDK.

But yes the success of TDKR should finally rid us of the idea that TDK was only a success due to Ledger's death. I mean jeez if that was the case then "The Crow" should have also been one of the biggest movies of all time!

Brandon Lee's death was much more tragic, and he literally died on set! Plus add to his father's mysterious and also untimely death it was a lot more to talk about at the time.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
shhh!! don't tell george lucas that 😂

I'm gna tell him!

And then I'll give him a thumbs up for bringing Darth Maul back in Clone Wars 😄

I don't think anybody said that it was the only factor, just that it was a large one, which it was imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think anybody said that it was the only factor, just that it was a large one, which it was imo.

Nah I don't agree it was a "Large" factor at all. A factor- Yes.

But Nolan was already a big name at the time, just having his name attached was bringing in big money - "Inception."

Plus when you add the overwhelming word of mouth for how good that movie was, then it was always bound to make a killing.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Nah I don't agree it was a "Large" factor at all. A factor- Yes.

But Nolan was already a big name at the time, just having his name attached was bringing in big money - "Inception."

Plus when you add the overwhelming word of mouth for how good that movie was, then it was always bound to make a killing.

Dark Knight came out before Inception, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Dark Knight came out before Inception, though.

Ah yes your right. So it was TDK that made Nolan's name huge.

So looking at the success of Inception and TDKR, it seems pretty unlikely that it was Heath's death that made TDK huge. If it was the success and hype would not continue to future movies.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Ah yes your right. So it was TDK that made Nolan's name huge.

So looking at the success of Inception and TDKR, it seems pretty unlikely that it was Heath's death that made TDK huge. If it was the success and hype would not continue to future movies.

I would say that it was one of the reasons, not the sole one at all.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I would say that it was one of the reasons, not the sole one at all.

I'm talking about people that say it was the sole reason or the main reason. It was A reason but it was by no means THE reason like some people claim.