Yeah, wage war I guess. But the Gods clearly have a problem when you go too far with it! haermm
Which this is actually because the game doesn't understand what the God of War was in the myths. Basically Ares just loved fighting in wars and joined them, becoming more of a spirit of war. He sucked though. Mortals could injure him during war, which caused him to leave.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelKratos killed his own kid because Ares used magic to conceal his families identities. This is called betraying someone who has waged wars in your honor. Acting like Kratos willingly murdered his own family is disingenuous.
I do expect that from Kratos. Unlike Ajax, Kratos does not give a shit about his actions. Monster. Oh and you bring up morals when you tell me to leave them out? STFU Quan. Kratos killed his own kid in the equivalent of being in a drunken rage. He is more monstrous than Zeus.Knock 'em out again. Kratos wants revenge and is perfectly fine with screwing the natural order of the planet, condemning mankind to a living hell. I.e Monster.
Oh really now? Lets see: Kratos was ignoring what the Gods warned and continued waging war. He is not helping the paranoia when he seems to be right on track to betraying the gods. Cause he is a monster.
You know, Henry VIII probably cared about people too. He is still a monster who had half a dozen people burned at the stake for each wedding. Kratos was justified in killing Ares. Not Zeus. Killing Zeus was done because obsessed over revenge. Monster.
You know, letting maniacal dicks run around and kill everything in their paths is something we try to prevent even today right?
Redeeming qualities don't amount to anything. A monster is a monster. And IDK what a God of War is supposed to do. Listen to other gods instead of doing whatever the hell he wants might have been a smarter choice.
What happens to earth is irrelevant and these gods can not only kill you but also torture you in the afterlife. Acting like koing these gods won't eventually get you killed is stupid. Kratos kills what gets in his way just like Zeus so don't judge Kratos for what any god would do in his stead to an enemy.
Zeus didn't kill him because he was waging war. You keep going back to that zeus was intent on killing him shortly after pandora's box was released. fear got inside Zeus' head and he was scared of Kratos. Rightfully so because in the end Kratos killed that chump.
It's funny that you say killing Ares is ok but Zeus the guy who murdered Kratos isn't ok. You really have no argument to stand on. You simply hate Kratos which I myself enjoy since Kratos is glorified for being a monster and you should stick to kiddy games. I mean even in a fictional game you are offended which reeks of sensitivity.
Yes, in modern day times Kratos is a monster but not so much in the gow universe where killing is a way of life. You act as if it's ok for the gods to shit on mankind but if someone kills the gods and upends things that they went too far.
A god of war is supposed to excel and create wars. That's what the role/position is for not poetry or peacemaking but war. Yes, Kratos is a monster but Zeus started a war with him and got killed. He was justified in slaughtering his terrible absentee father.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos killed his own kid because Ares used magic to conceal his families identities. This is called betraying someone who has waged wars in your honor. Acting like Kratos willingly murdered his own family is disingenuous.
Gods messed with peoples heads all the time in myths. It is still their fault for their actions. And Kratos willingly murders a lot of people. That is just one that is very notable.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What happens to earth is irrelevant and these gods can not only kill you but also torture you in the afterlife. Acting like koing these gods won't eventually get you killed is stupid. Kratos kills what gets in his way just like Zeus so don't judge Kratos for what any god would do in his stead to an enemy.
No...it isn't. If you want revenge against someone, fine. It's stupid but go ahead. If the planet starts falling apart because someone is trying to get revenge, then it's my problem. Kratos fvcked the world over. That is worse than anything Zeus did. Did he mean to do it? Probably not. But he did not care whether it happened, which makes him worse than anyone. And koing those guys is always an option. Someone like Kratos is just too blood thirsty to take it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus didn't kill him because he was waging war. You keep going back to that zeus was intent on killing him shortly after pandora's box was released. fear got inside Zeus' head and he was scared of Kratos. Rightfully so because in the end Kratos killed that chump.
I.e Self preservation. See what I did there?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's funny that you say killing Ares is ok but Zeus the guy who murdered Kratos isn't ok. You really have no argument to stand on. You simply hate Kratos which I myself enjoy since Kratos is glorified for being a monster and you should stick to kiddy games. I mean even in a fictional game you are offended which reeks of sensitivity.
Considering Kratos wanted to die at the end of the first game, I can't see why he'd have a problem with it. And no, I don't think you get why I hate Kratos. I have no probably with rather excessive villains. When they don't interest me and have the intelligence of a child, that's when I hate them.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, in modern day times Kratos is a monster but not so much in the gow universe where killing is a way of life. You act as if it's ok for the gods to shit on mankind but if someone kills the gods and upends things that they went too far.
Well lets see: If we take it from the perspective of the GOW verse, Kratos is a monster for killing his family, Ares aside. And aside from Ares, I have not heard of any god doing anything bad to humanity. The magnificent ***** Athena aside. And when your revenge tears nature apart, you are going too far dude.
Originally posted by quanchi112
A god of war is supposed to excel and create wars. That's what the role/position is for not poetry or peacemaking but war. Yes, Kratos is a monster but Zeus started a war with him and got killed. He was justified in slaughtering his terrible absentee father.
Really now? I do not believe the God of War has any job criteria. Otherwise the gods wouldn't have problems when they start wars. Zeus did not start a war with him. He killed him. Kratos was the one who came back to life, went back through time, and actually started the war.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelYes, he becomes the new god of war. Zeus also murders people but Kratos is justified for murdering someone who wants him done which is what started this whole argument.
Gods messed with peoples heads all the time in myths. It is still their fault for their actions. And Kratos willingly murders a lot of people. That is just one that is very notable.No...it isn't. If you want revenge against someone, fine. It's stupid but go ahead. If the planet starts falling apart because someone is trying to get revenge, then it's my problem. Kratos fvcked the world over. That is worse than anything Zeus did. Did he mean to do it? Probably not. But he did not care whether it happened, which makes him worse than anyone. And koing those guys is always an option. Someone like Kratos is just too blood thirsty to take it.
I.e Self preservation. See what I did there?
Considering Kratos wanted to die at the end of the first game, I can't see why he'd have a problem with it. And no, I don't think you get why I hate Kratos. I have no probably with rather excessive villains. When they don't interest me and have the intelligence of a child, that's when I hate them.
Well lets see: If we take it from the perspective of the GOW verse, Kratos is a monster for killing his family, Ares aside. And aside from Ares, I have not heard of any god doing anything bad to humanity. The magnificent ***** Athena aside. And when your revenge tears nature apart, you are going too far dude.
Really now? I do not believe the God of War has any job criteria. Otherwise the gods wouldn't have problems when they start wars. Zeus did not start a war with him. He killed him. Kratos was the one who came back to life, went back through time, and actually started the war.
Zeus doesn't want to ko Kratos so koing Zeus isn't solving the problem. Kratos didn't purposely destroy the world and it's not destroyed either. Kratos carried out his vengeance against a guy who deserved to die. Plain and simple.
Zeus had no reason for self preservation to kick in. If I am get crazy and think my neighbor might kill me I am not justified in attacking him. Kratos gave Zeus no reason to assume he was going to kill Zeus until Zeus killed him.
Yes, he wanted to die initially after he realized the guilt of murdering his own family wouldn't go away. He was saved by the gods themselves don't act like he didn't want to die but like most suicidal people the moments can pass and when they do they aren't always willing to jump off a cliff. What gives you the idea Kratos is stupid ?
Zeus takes out his entire spartan army in combat but that's to be expected. Kratos committed horrible war crimes in ares name and when ares crossed him he deserved to die. Kratos doesn't kill the gods for no reason that would make him a monster.
The gow excels and revels in war. We saw Ares do so and we saw Kratos do so as well. They revel in combat. Kratos came back and tried to kill Zeus but Zeus fled and started a war because he couldn't beat Kratos on his own. Zeus started the war and fled from Kratos and kratos crushed them all.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he becomes the new god of war. Zeus also murders people but Kratos is justified for murdering someone who wants him done which is what started this whole argument.
I know? Who? And I don't think Zeus was in the wrong with killing Kratos. He treated him like he did Ares, who you think should have died.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus doesn't want to ko Kratos so koing Zeus isn't solving the problem. Kratos didn't purposely destroy the world and it's not destroyed either. Kratos carried out his vengeance against a guy who deserved to die. Plain and simple.
Did killing Zeus affect the planet? I don't recall. Probably. And it's cute how Kratos is defended by the "He didn't mean to" argument. I like to read into characters intent but since Kratos' intent was revenge, he is not painted in a good way. Particularly when he seems far worse than Zeus.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus had no reason for self preservation to kick in. If I am get crazy and think my neighbor might kill me I am not justified in attacking him. Kratos gave Zeus no reason to assume he was going to kill Zeus until Zeus killed him.
And if you attack him and then he proceeds to attack you, your friends, your family, and destroys the city just to get at you, I'm starting to think you had a right to be paranoid. And really? Kratos gave him no reasons huh?
Zeus: "Stop killing people."
Kratos: "Up yours!"
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he wanted to die initially after he realized the guilt of murdering his own family wouldn't go away. He was saved by the gods themselves don't act like he didn't want to die but like most suicidal people the moments can pass and when they do they aren't always willing to jump off a cliff. What gives you the idea Kratos is stupid ?
Why not join his family in Hades? And what tells me Kratos is stupid is a variety of things. Particularly the fact that he can travel through time and yet does not use it to prevent himself from killing his family.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus takes out his entire spartan army in combat but that's to be expected. Kratos committed horrible war crimes in ares name and when ares crossed him he deserved to die. Kratos doesn't kill the gods for no reason that would make him a monster.
Why did he kill Hermes, someone who runs away? 😮
Originally posted by quanchi112
The gow excels and revels in war. We saw Ares do so and we saw Kratos do so as well. They revel in combat. Kratos came back and tried to kill Zeus but Zeus fled and started a war because he couldn't beat Kratos on his own. Zeus started the war and fled from Kratos and kratos crushed them all.
Self preservation. Again, it fits Zeus far more than Kratos.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelZeus murders the entire spartan army. Zeus killed Kratos for different reasons than for setting up ares for death. Zeus was unjustified.
I know? Who? And I don't think Zeus was in the wrong with killing Kratos. He treated him like he did Ares, who you think should have died.Did killing Zeus affect the planet? I don't recall. Probably. And it's cute how Kratos is defended by the "He didn't mean to" argument. I like to read into characters intent but since Kratos' intent was revenge, he is not painted in a good way. Particularly when he seems far worse than Zeus.
And if you attack him and then he proceeds to attack you, your friends, your family, and destroys the city just to get at you, I'm starting to think you had a right to be paranoid. And really? Kratos gave him no reasons huh?
Zeus: "Stop killing people."
Kratos: "Up yours!"Why not join his family in Hades? And what tells me Kratos is stupid is a variety of things. Particularly the fact that he can travel through time and yet does not use it to prevent himself from killing his family.
Why did he kill Hermes, someone who runs away? 😮
Self preservation. Again, it fits Zeus far more than Kratos.
When a guy kills you it's not unwarranted to want to kill them. You pain Zeus into some angelic being when his fear led him to irrationally bring about his own death through mucking around with Kratos in the first place.
Zeus went to war with Kratos and the Titans. In war two opposing sides attack the other until death or concession. The war wouldn't have taken place if Zeus didn't flee like a coward. You try to blame Kratos for the war when it was zeus who brought about his fellow gods deaths and his own.
Kratos' history should have made it very clear what would happen if zeus failed in killing Kratos for good. If you try to kill someone expect to be killed yourself should you fail. You say it's ok for Zeus but not ok for Kratos. You don't even see hypocrisy in this argument.
We don't see his family in hades. If that occurs then we don't have god of war when this is all about money. The game developers giving the fans want they want doesn't make Kratos suddenly stupid. In the game he overcomes great adversity which shows a real intelligence.
It's war and Hermes was on Zeus' side. We see this in the beginning.
Zeus didn't fight Kratos because he was protecting his own life that's self preservation when being attacked and naturally defending yourself. You don't even seem to understand what self preservation even is.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus murders the entire spartan army. Zeus killed Kratos for different reasons than for setting up ares for death. Zeus was unjustified.
Not really. According to NemeBro, Zeus killed Kratos because he was acting just like Ares. Someone acting that way does seem like a threat.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When a guy kills you it's not unwarranted to want to kill them. You pain Zeus into some angelic being when his fear led him to irrationally bring about his own death through mucking around with Kratos in the first place.
If Kratos did not give him good reason to fear betrayal, this would all be avoided. Zeus is no angel...Unless you're comparing him to Kratos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus went to war with Kratos and the Titans. In war two opposing sides attack the other until death or concession. The war wouldn't have taken place if Zeus didn't flee like a coward. You try to blame Kratos for the war when it was zeus who brought about his fellow gods deaths and his own.
Self preservation. And nah. It was Kratos' attack on their home that led to their deaths. His death wasn't something he had a right to complain about.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos' history should have made it very clear what would happen if zeus failed in killing Kratos for good. If you try to kill someone expect to be killed yourself should you fail. You say it's ok for Zeus but not ok for Kratos. You don't even see hypocrisy in this argument.
Zeus is the king God. He has every right to decide when the other gods go to far and deal accordingly. If Kratos was so much worse than Ares and refused to listen to the gods, Zeus has a right to feel threatened and condemn him to death.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't see his family in hades. If that occurs then we don't have god of war when this is all about money. The game developers giving the fans want they want doesn't make Kratos suddenly stupid. In the game he overcomes great adversity which shows a real intelligence. It's war and Hermes was on Zeus' side. We see this in the beginning.
His family is in Hades and he did not bother reuniting with them. No, what makes Kratos stupid is the fact that these thoughts never occurred to him. Or any thought occurred to him. Hermes was running though and probably would have fled. Hephaestus also was a pretty innocent fellow iirc.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus didn't fight Kratos because he was protecting his own life that's self preservation when being attacked and naturally defending yourself. You don't even seem to understand what self preservation even is.
"The protection of oneself from harm or death, esp. regarded as a basic instinct in human beings and animals."
Fits Zeus to a tee.
What's funny is Quan I don't think has ever played Pokemon so he really is just here to defend Kratos honor.
Pokemon win. Machamp has better feats than all the Mortal Kombat gais and the other Pokemon can help Regigigas gang up on Kratos, who in all fairness is the strongest character here.
Actually, how the hell did this morality debate get started?
Edit: Still, it makes more sense than the random Egyptian discussion that came out of nowhere. Even if it's not nearly as entertaining.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Pokemon win. Machamp has better feats than all the Mortal Kombat gais and the other Pokemon can help Regigigas gang up on Kratos, who in all fairness is the strongest character here.
And I still maintain that Ermac would rape Machamp regardless of his physical strength if he was one of the listed characters on the team. uhuh
Because it obviously did Sindel for one.
And should Kratos get the same power amp from Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn, he'll prolly wreck the pokemon team.