Pokemon vs Mortal Kombat!

Started by ares83425 pages

Key word "usually". As such it isn't necceasrily true so to say it is wrong. Not to mention Mew and Arceus's "It is said" entries's contradict each other.

Not really. Mew could contain the DNA of Arceus, as Mew would be the first Pokemon created. Arceus either chose to use some of his own DNA, or he didn't. Neither is technically wrong. Mew would just be the first Pokemon, and all the other species developed from him.

It's shown to be true in the Pokemon world. The entries for Legendary Pokemon are valid.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
[B]Not really. Mew could contain the DNA of Arceus, as Mew would be the first Pokemon created. Arceus either chose to use some of his own DNA, or he didn't. Neither is technically wrong. Mew would just be the first Pokemon, and all the other species developed from him.

No I was talking about this one: "Because it is able to use every move, there are many scientists who believe that it is the ancestor of all Pokémon."

It's shown to be true in the Pokemon world. The entries for Legendary Pokemon are valid.

Where? I'm not saying every entry is invalid simply that many of them are questionable.

Mew can learn any TM, HM, or move tutor attack, but there are some techniques that do not fall under those, such as Hydro Pump, Sacred Fire, Aeroblast, etc. So technically it can't learn every move. 😛 That title belongs to Smeargle IIRC.

Oh, that's pretty much been retconned. It can't use every move anymore, there's way too many. It can still use every TM in each game though.

The games themselves. We see Rayquaza balance the powers of Kyogre and Groudon, we see those two Pokemon's powers. We see Dialga and Palkia distort Time and Space to rip the universe apart and begin creating another. We see the smaller legendary Pokemon like Uxie, Azelf and Mesprit perform their duties. And so on and so forth.

Not just in the games too. Hell, even Regigigas displays a level of strength consistent with his dex entries in the Giritina movie.

I ninja'd you there about the Mew thing. >.>

I notice'd.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The games themselves. We see Rayquaza balance the powers of Kyogre and Groudon, we see those two Pokemon's powers. We see Dialga and Palkia distort Time and Space to rip the universe apart and begin creating another. We see the smaller legendary Pokemon like Uxie, Azelf and Mesprit perform their duties. And so on and so forth.

And yet this doesn't prove that they created the world/universe. or that time started to flow when they were born etc...

Not just in the games too. Hell, even Regigigas displays a level of strength consistent with his dex entries in the Giritina movie.

Holding back a glacier with a herd of Mamoswine(?) =/= towing around continents.

Originally posted by ares834
And yet this doesn't prove that they created the world/universe.

Holding back a glacier with a herd of Mamoswine(?) =/= towing around continets.

That's 'cause Dialga, Palkia, Giritina, Rayquaza, Groudon or Kyogre did not create the universe.

Bro, look at the situation more realistically. He's got Slow Start, it's like a mile long glacier or some shit (I herd teh ice gets extremely dense), more pressure is being added from the Reverse World, and he's standing on a lake of ice. Christ, it's a miracle he was able to slow it down at all. What do you want? Super anchoring and friction capabilities?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Not really. According to NemeBro, Zeus killed Kratos because he was acting just like Ares. Someone acting that way does seem like a threat.

If Kratos did not give him good reason to fear betrayal, this would all be avoided. Zeus is no angel...Unless you're comparing him to Kratos.

Self preservation. And nah. It was Kratos' attack on their home that led to their deaths. His death wasn't something he had a right to complain about.

Zeus is the king God. He has every right to decide when the other gods go to far and deal accordingly. If Kratos was so much worse than Ares and refused to listen to the gods, Zeus has a right to feel threatened and condemn him to death.

His family is in Hades and he did not bother reuniting with them. No, what makes Kratos stupid is the fact that these thoughts never occurred to him. Or any thought occurred to him. Hermes was running though and probably would have fled. Hephaestus also was a pretty innocent fellow iirc.

"The protection of oneself from harm or death, esp. regarded as a basic instinct in human beings and animals."

Fits Zeus to a tee.

Nemebro is wrong. Never take his word for anything. Zeus is overwhelmed by a personal fear of Kratos the moment he killed Ares.

Kratos didn't give him a reason Zeus was overcome by fear from pandora's box. It had nothing to do with Kratos aside from the fact that a mortal killing a god scared him which he himself wanted from Kratos in the first place. Kratos kills those in war or if you screw him over. You know what you're getting from him whereas zeus you don't.

Zeus' actions caused Kratos to want his head. If zeus hadn't been such a coward he would have never died. Zeus started a war and Kratos ended up. You really should only play disney games as in real life if you go to war expect to kill or be killed. Acting like Kratos had no right to win the war is fairy tale logic devoid of reality.

Zeus didn't do sound with a sound mind his mind was clouded by fear. If you claim Zeus has a right to kill him Kratos has the right to kill Zeus. You don't even realize your own blatant double standards.

How can Kratos ever hope to reunite with his family with Hades running hell ? You think they will just let him have his way ? You sound as if you never played the game. You just implement double standards and feel everyone against Kratos is justified but that Kratos can't even defend himself.

Kratos tried getting them back and was toyed with by Ares in this manner. He'd be an idiot to assume it's that easy or that he could even get them back. Greek myths are about tragedy and the programmers explain this is a key element in Kratos' history as well. He will never get his family back no matter how desperately he wants to hence the tragedy. Hermes attacks Kratos as well and is on the other side so killing him is intelligent.

Hephaestus tries to kill Kratos. You don't have a clue and are arguing just to argue.

If it's ok for Zeus it's ok for Kratos to kill him. Moral of the story is if you betray Kratos you die. Zeus deserved death and Kratos gave it to him.

That's 'cause Dialga, Palkia, Giritina, Rayquaza, Groudon or Kyogre did not create the universe.

I was talking about legendaries in general.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Bro, look at the situation more realistically. He's got Slow Start, it's like a mile long glacier or some shit (I herd teh ice gets extremely dense), more pressure is being added from the Reverse World, and he's standing on a lake of ice. Christ, it's a miracle he was able to slow it down at all. What do you want? Super anchoring and friction capabilities?

If he can move a ****in continent a glacier would be nothing to him even if he does start at half power.

Bro. He was standing on ice, and the glacier is huge.

Like I said, it's a miracle he did anything to it at all. Physics say he couldn't even stop it if he tried, 'cause it weighs so much more than him.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Gonna disagree with ya there boyo. The Pokedex saying it is the equivalent of some character saying something like "Person A has killed hundreds of people." We assume it happened offscreen and the game just doesn't feel like showing us. Which is okay with me.

Yeah, no. The anime is ridiculous.

What? So you're claiming the Pokedex tells something the Pokemon did in the past? Back it up. No script in the game says so, not even NPCs. As for the Anime, well, I brought it up since it's the only reliable source, at least we have visuals, etc. We don't have vague statements as with the Pokedex entries.

Originally posted by ares834
WTF! So the anime is more "canon" than the original source? lol Going by that logic the best source for MK are the movies or the new show.

The pokedex is, for the most part, canon. Their are certain entires that are clearly hyperbole (Tyranitar and Nidoking for example) and some are questionable (mainly legendary pokes entires with the "It is said" clause) but the rest are canon unless their is a contradiction.

I never said the Anime was 'more canon' than the games, dude.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Bro. He was standing on ice, and the glacier is huge.

Like I said, it's a miracle he did anything to it at all. Physics say he couldn't even stop it if he tried, 'cause it weighs so much more than him.

No. Ice still has friction and if he was strong enough to move continents he had to generate massive friction on whatever surface he walked on back then, he should still be able to do so on ice. Not to mention with that kind of strength he should be able to at the very least plant his feet deeply in the ice. It was an impressive display but nowhere near continent hauling levels.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
I never said the Anime was 'more canon' than the games, dude.

Yes you did.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
The Anime is the best source, if you ask me.

No, I didn't.

I just quoted you saying the anime is the best source... lulz.

Plant his feet deeply? He's only like, 13 feet tall or something. There's also the problem of, beneath the ice, there is a deep lake. Ice does not have nearly enough friction.

@ares834

Indeed.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Plant his feet deeply? He's only like, 13 feet tall or something. There's also the problem of, beneath the ice, there is a deep lake.

Umm.... OK? You do realize ice can be many feet thick don't you?

Ice does not have nearly enough friction.

Nor does rock have nearly enough friction to move continents...