Originally she was still rather formidable; her ritual suicide before her resurrection was enough to form a barrier that prevented Shao Kahn himself into stepping foot into earthrealm. The queen must have always been powerful in sorcery.
All I was saying before though is, the amp from thousands of souls that were consumed would be as beneficial to Kratos as it was to Sindel, if not more-so.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Pokemon win. Machamp has better feats than all the Mortal Kombat gais
Hmm, I'm not sure about that. I don't know if to accept Machamp's feats from the Pokedex yet. As I said, there is nothing more than the entry to support it, and most of the time they don't make any sense.
Besides this:
'It uses its four powerful arms to pin the limbs of its foe, then throws the victim over the horizon.'
Is bullshit, hyperbole and a no limits fallacy.
Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont think the pokedex is a good source at all, it seems very quick and general, not some sort of advanced study.
Yeah I agree, besides I think the creators or whatever just wrote that stuff because it sounded cool. Bottom line, they never thought of it as something to take seriously. And the entries aren't good source since the Pokemons never displayed nor hint to display any of the mentioned in any game whatsoever. It's just a pile bullshit. I love Pokemon but this is bullshit. 😬
No, what's bullshit is something colder than absolute zero.
Tossing a foe over the horizon is not hyperbole. God damn it. Now I have to teach another ****ing person what the difference between hyperbole and regular language is.
Hyperbole is exaggeration for emphasis.
Example: I am so MOTHER ****ING hungry I could eat a GOD DAMN horse.
Example of NOT HYPERBOLE: "It uses it's four powerful arms to pin the limbs of its foe and tosses it over the horizon."
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No, what's bullshit is something colder than absolute zero.
Reeks of double standard if I do say so myself.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Fair enough. But Machamp cannot toss EVERY opponent over the horizon, that's a no limits fallacy.
If all of his opponents weigh less than a mountain, he could send them flying easily. Which is to say, he will toss every Mortal Kombat character over the horizon, magic powers notwithstanding.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Yeah I agree, besides I think the creators or whatever just wrote that stuff because it sounded cool. Bottom line, they never thought of it as something to take seriously. And the entries aren't good source since the Pokemons never displayed nor hint to display any of the mentioned in any game whatsoever. It's just a pile bullshit. I love Pokemon but this is bullshit. 😬
It just sounds like a basic, general description of something. Everything is loosely termed, "over the horizen" for example. "melt any material" for Charizard that you mentioned. Theres probably a lot of them, a source supposedly trying to display advanced study would not have such a quick statement, it would be a few pages of information.
The pokedex looks like a basic guide, like a brief encyclopedia.
Also mountains can be different sizes and weights, again a very loose statement.
The whole argument "science made it so its clever!" is flawed because science can be in error, Pokemon in their world are not a "finished" study, their still studying them. Also a scientist can lie, humans are fallible and the whole "he can toss mountains" or do"500 punches a second" sounds fishy due to the fact the mountain claim is very loose, a scientist would name what mountai t tossed, how far etc and I would like to know how they calculated the 500 punches.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Alright. What makes you think Machamp has moved mountains before? That never happened in any game. Besides, what about MK characters's feats? They count. You can't make it sound as if they are totally helpless. I think Quan can provide some feats if he wishes...Bah, just sayin'.
Yeah he has considering the Pokedex is in the game. Is it stupid and ridiculous? Yep. But the Pokedex says it, it is law. Unless it is a no-limits fallacy. Which Charizard being able to melt anything is. And Quan has never posted a single feat that I can recall.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Yeah he has considering the Pokedex is in the game. Is it stupid and ridiculous? Yep. But the Pokedex says it, it is law. Unless it is a no-limits fallacy. Which Charizard being able to melt anything is. And Quan has never posted a single feat that I can recall.
Just because the Pokedex is in the game doens't mean he has done it. We have nothing to back up the entry. And no, some of the things may be accurate but most of them aren't. The Anime is the best source, if you ask me.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Pick out any example of "nonsense" in the Pokedex, Griever, and I'll explain it or point out how it's illegal/not used in the first place.BT, shut the **** up. I've already got enough British noise for today.
You won't expect me to search all Bulbapedia, right? Besides Machamp is the main topic now.
Plus, what Burning thought said seems plausible to me. It's a good logical reasoning, so I see no reason to ignore him and ''refute'' his argument by insulting his native language.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Just because the Pokedex is in the game doens't mean he has done it. We have nothing to back up the entry. And no, some of the things may be accurate but most of them aren't. The Anime is the best source, if you ask me.
Gonna disagree with ya there boyo. The Pokedex saying it is the equivalent of some character saying something like "Person A has killed hundreds of people." We assume it happened offscreen and the game just doesn't feel like showing us. Which is okay with me.
Yeah, no. The anime is ridiculous.
I'm not insulting his native language. I was insulting him. Or at least, that was my goal. Poorly done, sure. But I'm not in a happy mood. So I don't really care to try and do better.
And no, everything he says is not plausible reasoning to neglect the Pokedex. It is painfully obvious to anyone who's ever been even somewhat involved in the Pokemon franchise that all Pokemon can vary in strength. So yeah, some Machamp are stronger than others, some Tyranitar are stronger than others, and so on. But the Pokedex would be accounting for average levels of power. Why? Well, we're operating on logic aren't we? That's the best explanation given what we know.
Scientists do not lie in encyclopedias. And BT even said it was an encyclopedia. That's him being stupid again.
The rest of it is just him trying to downplay shit again. It's what he does, the troll.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Just because the Pokedex is in the game doens't mean he has done it. We have nothing to back up the entry. And no, some of the things may be accurate but most of them aren't. The Anime is the best source, if you ask me.
WTF! So the anime is more "canon" than the original source? lol Going by that logic the best source for MK are the movies or the new show.
The pokedex is, for the most part, canon. Their are certain entires that are clearly hyperbole (Tyranitar and Nidoking for example) and some are questionable (mainly legendary pokes entires with the "It is said" clause) but the rest are canon unless their is a contradiction.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
If all of his opponents weigh less than a mountain, he could send them flying easily. Which is to say, he will toss every Mortal Kombat character over the horizon, magic powers notwithstanding.
As for the pokedex, yeah. Basically what ares and them said. Constantly downplaying it is not helping y'all's case, at all.
The Legendary dex entries aren't void because of the "It is said" thing. Loads of games have stuff like that, it's called mythology. We have them in the real world too. But in vidya gaems, the lore usually turns out to be true. As is the case with the Pokemon world, where "It is said that Dialga controls time" is shown to be true.