Originally posted by quanchi112
*noise*
🙂
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
What? So you're claiming the Pokedex tells something the Pokemon did in the past? Back it up. No script in the game says so, not even NPCs. As for the Anime, well, I brought it up since it's the only reliable source, at least we have visuals, etc. We don't have vague statements as with the Pokedex entries.
...The Pokedex is script in the game and is the equivalent of an NPC. And no, the anime is proven unreliable in various places. And it does not replace the canon of the game.
Machamp can throw mountains. It is ridiculous sure but it is something the game states.
Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Just stick with Pokemon please. And yeah, we already know you are a great fan of Kingdom Hearts.
In Kingdom Hearts, Jiminy Cricket keeps a journal of all the incidents in the game complete with character bios. Such bios includes the cartoons or movies that the Disney characters appeared in. I don't ask the game to prove that Aladdin appeared in a Disney film made in 1992 but the journal is still correct even if the game doesn't provide proof. Or when the journal says that I killed half of Organization XIII before the start of the series. I don't remember that in the first game but I still take it for a fact and it is a fact.
Case in point, there is no reason to question the Pokedex unless you simply do not want to believe that what it says is true. Which is the same case with Jiminy's journal. Both channel the words of god and are expected to be taken at face value without question. Ones that make a fallacy are the only exceptions and Machamps does not.
Oh and as far as using the anime goes:
1. Moo already dismissed it in the OP.
2. In the Video Games Versus forum, why would we care about the anime?
3. The anime contradicts itself a hell of a lot more than the games could ever. It is actually a very unreliable source.
The anime is extremely reliable.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelYeah, you conceded when you forfeited a response. I responded to every irrational point you posted and so did you until the last post where you conceded. Live in shame.
Concession: "The action of conceding, granting, or yielding something."Learn the definition of words before using them Quan. Helps a lot.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, you conceded when you forfeited a response. I responded to every irrational point you posted and so did you until the last post where you conceded. Live in shame.
Conceded: "Admit that something is true or valid after first denying or resisting it"
I don't recall doing this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You did just a few posts after when you altered my response to noise. Unlike you I don't break under cross examination. You've been quanned.
Altered implies I changed it. Your responses have always been noise Quan.
And I don't know for a fact if any of your post qualifies as a cross examination as I did not bother reading it. You mistakenly believe that you typed anything that made me change my mind. Which is simply not true Quanny.
You are like a toy to me, a toy that has lost my interest. If you hadn't noticed, I was very much looking forward to your return because you are an entertaining toy at times. Now I'm bored and I'll put you away. There are much more interesting toys to play with. I'll play with you again sooner or later, so don't feel bad.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelIf my reply said noise and that's it then you would be correct but if my response had complete sentences then you are wrong. If you can't see the error in your statement here I can see why you were arguing with me.
Altered implies I changed it. Your responses have always been noise Quan.And I don't know for a fact if any of your post qualifies as a cross examination as I did not bother reading it. You mistakenly believe that you typed anything that made me change my mind. Which is simply not true Quanny.
You are like a toy to me, a toy that has lost my interest. If you hadn't noticed, I was very much looking forward to your return because you are an entertaining toy at times. Now I'm bored and I'll put you away. There are much more interesting toys to play with. I'll play with you again sooner or later, so don't feel bad.
When you didn't bother reading it you conceded when you responded. I won you lost. Get over it.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'm not insulting his native language. I was insulting him. Or at least, that was my goal. Poorly done, sure. But I'm not in a happy mood. So I don't really care to try and do better.And no, everything he says is not plausible reasoning to neglect the Pokedex. It is painfully obvious to anyone who's ever been even somewhat involved in the Pokemon franchise that all Pokemon can vary in strength. So yeah, some Machamp are stronger than others, some Tyranitar are stronger than others, and so on. But the Pokedex would be accounting for average levels of power. Why? Well, we're operating on logic aren't we? That's the best explanation given what we know.
Scientists do not lie in encyclopedias. And BT even said it was an encyclopedia. That's him being stupid again.
The rest of it is just him trying to downplay shit again. It's what he does, the troll.
Reported for ignoring rule 1 of the forum. You should also know ad hominem is a logical fallacy, therefore making your argument even less credible, especially if this was a formal and judged debate.
This sounds like a rant that has no real value on the discussion, I dont care if theres different strengths in the spiecies.
It does not even have to be a lie, although thats a major generalisation "no scientist would lie", it could be falty, as I said before when i refuted the whole "science is da smartest so itz accurate!" is that science can be at falt, and furthermore people have brought up plenty of areas where the scientists have put it in the pokedex and its either hyperbole, a generalisation fallacy or their talking about some sort of mythological entity that they dont really know about so clearly theories and not facts are also present.
You probably dont even know how the Pokemon science is conducted and yet your championing it despite how you dont know how they get their "facts", i guess your just assuming they have specifically seen a machamp toss a mountain.
Troll? pot calling kettle black.