Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Captain America was also shot up once by machine gun fire while he was in his civies, which completely leveled his car, and he was fine. He took out the shooters with half a dozen rounds in his chest and went to SHIELD for a debriefing. Remind me... what happened when Deadshot filled Deathstroke with bullets? 😎Captain America can see bullets in slow motion. That gives us an idea of just how much faster he sees the world then a normal human would. Slade has no such measuring stick documented, assuming the abilities are equal is just further documentation of your bias.
The speed of thought is 150mph. Even if his thought process was 1000 times faster than a normal human (and it isn't its only around 10x), Slade's instantaneous reflexes would be no where near fast enough to allow him to tag any one of those characters. It's PIS.
There is plenty of reason to believe that Captain America could causally beat Batman... it's called his complete history. Fanboys love to delude themselves into thinking that Batman and Captain America are equals, that there is little in the way of difference between the two of them... but that simply isn't the case. Captain America is a super soldier. He can run 60mph while carrying a grown man. He can stop a car dead in its tracks by grabbing it and anchoring himself. He can see bullets in slow motion. He can walk around with a telephone pole causally slung over one shoulder. He out runs bullets and has the strength of a platoon of soldiers. Captain America is Batman in the body of Deathstroke. Captain America would steam role Batman, anyone who can be impartial should be able to see that. I'm Canadian... I don't even like Captain America that much, and even I know he can beat Batman. No one is going to come to your house at take away your Batman bedsheets and break your action figures, because you were able to put aside your bias for ten seconds.
show me the scan.you sure his armor had nothing to do with it? Because i doubt it. Why? Because hes already died from gunshots.....really died, not like slade.arguing that cap hf can compare just plain retarded. Hes gotten a y in an autopsy that visibly started healing before it was finished. Cease this nonsense srank.
Lol their you go calling me bias. They both see in slow motion. You cant even prove that he can see faster but yet you insist he has an advantage. And im biased? Youre ridiculous.
Srank, are you really that deluded? Its not pis because his reflexes dont add up or make sense in reality. Its a freakin comicbook. You cant use such logic. His reflex feats are better and hes stated better.period. Get over it or provide proof against it.
Lol ive seen that feat youve mentioned and youre crazy for thinking cap can run faster than the speed of a bullet. Didnt you just say 60mph? Which is it? Lol and im a fanboy? You think cap runs faster than bullets travel and your not one? Lol ur a total hypocrite. Cap doesnt even have better feats than bruce, but you act as if hes god to him.like he couldnt even put up a fight despite all hes accomplished in his own feats. This is what fanboys do. They cite all the ridiculous pis crap they want and then dismiss any feat better as pis. The funny thing is a fanboy is always the quickest to simply call someone biased or a fanboy or ignorant instead of focusing their energies on proving something.
Originally posted by namorsubby
show me the scan.you sure his armor had nothing to do with it? Because i doubt it. Why? Because hes already died from gunshots.....really died, not like slade.
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Second this is an awful arguement, but thanks for ignoring context. Capt "died" from gun shot wounds, while wereing a device which depowered him Genius.
Originally posted by namorsubby
show me the scan.you sure his armor had nothing to do with it? Because i doubt it. Why? Because hes already died from gunshots.....really died, not like slade.
Actually this shows your ignorance. Cap never died from bullets. The bullets were highly advanced time bullets that scent his consciousness too the past. Thus his body was just not animated.
If his consciousness remained he would have healed just like he always did.
And then they plucked him out of it from the time loop he was in. This proves again how ignorant on Cap you are.
Thor probably plucked his actually spirit despite being alive, then it went back.
Cap is pretty much eternal.
Eternal like Hydra. Which helps explain why Cap always comes back from the dead.
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Sersi a eternal notes Cap like her is "ever youthful" as she can wait for Steve.
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Originally posted by SamZED
So.. who was Thor talking to when he brought back his "spirit"? Man, Marvel is so f#$ked up when it comes to killing off/resurecting characters...
He likely pulled his spirit from its time limbo. Not a huge stretch considering that his hammer also BFRed Janet instead of killing her in Secret Invasion.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think its a good fight, I just don't get why Marvel fans are so adamant about this being a stomp in Steve's favor.I can accept someone thinking that Cap's superior skills would net him a 6/10 or maybe even a 7/10 but saying that anyone wins 10/10 just smacks of rabid fanboyism.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
In pure h2h? I dont think it is at all to think Capt the superior fighter in skill of the two would win the vast majority of the time. DS pretty much has zero physical advantages against capt leaving skill and stamina to be two huge factor, both of which favor capt. He might not win 10/10, but 8/10 seem realistic given how they match up. If this would a normal fight I think 6/10 or even perhap favoring DS, but in h2h your in Capt game.
I'm aware of Cap surviving a gunshot wound to his head once or twice...Deathstroke has done that like four-five times. He's also had his heart ripped open and almost instantly regenerated from it.
I'm not going to bring up Slade hurting Wonder Woman and such with his blows since I think we both agree that those feats much like Cap hurting/staggering Namor and Hulk are stupid, I will however take your attention back to him pwning Nightwing and Batman with just a few blows. In the former instance he did this while his serum was wearing off...meaning he was much weaker than normal...yet he still managed to trounce a skilled Peak Human when he wasn't even trying to kill/KO him, just get him off his back because he didn't have the time.
When has Slade ever had problems with his stamina? I don't see Cap having any real advantage there.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
His reflex feats are superior to Cap's, as are his HF feats.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm aware of Cap surviving a gunshot wound to his head once or twice...Deathstroke has done that like four-five times.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's also had his heart ripped open and almost instantly regenerated from it.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm not going to bring up Slade hurting Wonder Woman and such with his blows since I think we both agree that those feats much like Cap hurting/staggering Namor and Hulk are stupid,
Agreed.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I will however take your attention back to him pwning Nightwing and Batman with just a few blows. In the former instance he did this while his serum was wearing off
No it wasent at all. Thats a misconception. His serum was not wearing off at all during that fight.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
...meaning he was much weaker than normal...yet he still managed to trounce a skilled Peak Human when he wasn't even trying to kill/KO him, just get him off his back because he didn't have the time.
And Batman was also not going all out either. Your serously playing up the event.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
When has Slade ever had problems with his stamina? I don't see Cap having any real advantage there.
