Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First, I agree with Rage's point that there is a BIT of a double standard going on here, in the end though, I don't believe Galactus and Odin are equals. That alone means that Galactus (by being more powerful alone) could beat Zoom, while Odin couldn't. Make no mistake though, I believe Odin wins and it would be pretty quick.One thing Rage.. You said Odin has faced down people of the same level and Ilk.. I disagree with that... Galactus has faced T&A, Mephisto is his realm, In-Betweener, Celesials (and actually won) just to name a few. All these people are above ANYBODY Odin has ever faced let alone beat.
I think you all are missing Rage argument. He isn't saying that Odin and Galactus are equals, what he is saying is that the people are arguing for Galactus because of what he has done on panel against high tier beings... well, Odin has done the same things, physically tank punishment from high level beings as well. It doesn't have to be equal to what Galactus has taken but basically above the level Zoom could dish out. It also show that if Galactus has tanked Galaxy level attacks (which was brought up by one of the Zoom supporters), Rage showed that Odin has done the same things "even though AGAIN, he isn't saying they are equals".
Carver gets it. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. One of my main attempts was to see the thresholds was to see what level of durability showings or power output was needed for someone to beat Zoom.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
^@lol Rage nice attempt at crippling my post and quoting only the parts that suit you best. As always. Different thread, the same game.
*Sigh* I was hoping I wouldn't get such a worthless response but I shouldn't be surprised really.
😬 The only part I left out that was even in response to me was this:
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
And Zoom wouldn't face a starvin Galactus right?
Hardly a game changing question.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It was an one way blast, the surrounging was just fine. The collateral damage wasn't near him or controlled it seems, plenty of ways to avoid it alltogether. Galactus can do better then this.
The aftereffects of Odin's attacks destroyed distant Galaxies as the battle took place on every plane of existence.
Are you honestly going to sit there and tell me that unless I present some "Herald My Rage" type blast, that you won't believe Odin can do an omnidirectional attack on a Galactic scale? In this particular thread and all the leniency given to Zoom in regards to lacking actual showings?
Man, I've never reported anyone for trolling but you're definitely testing my limits.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
The durability feats of Odin you show are mostly energy based attacks bored and nothing compared to the amped punch of Zeus for example, which did nothing, as seen in your scan, than anger Galactus. I also wrote "physical punishment", nice you ignore what you don't like 😉. The last time Thor hit Odin with Mjolnir, Odin seemed to feel it 😉. Zeus also felt Hulks blow for sure.
So yes, Galactus durability (and again) especially against physical attacks is better then Odins. And even against energy based attacks it is.
Galactus can also dish out more damage.
Physical? I guess you missed this:
Surtur -who destroyed a Galaxy while hammering on a forge- just stuck Odin with the Twilight Sword and the blow sent shockwaves throughout the Nine Worlds.
How is that not on par with a punch from -an amped- Zeus who hadn't even unleashed his true power? Especially coming from a such an avid supporter of applying real life weapon analogies to comic books as the Gladiator/Thor thread showed?
Thor stunned Odin, so? Thor/Mjolnir packs a hell of a punch when needed as you well know after the previous thread. I have no doubt he has the power to stun someone like Galactus. And it doesn't hurt that he has:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsGalactus3.jpg
It should be noted, that Galactus was not well fed, but at the same time, it was just a regular throw.
Anyways, we'll find out what state Odin's power level is in his battle to the death with Galactus.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
And Zoom would assault Galactus only with physical attacks, so.As for the other Heralds. Yeah I know why you don't want to go into this. I will stay polite and don't say what you are, though you should know it best 😉.
Try something else then this BS 😂.
So Galactus can withstand said attacks because he stood his grown after being punched by Zeus? Remember Odin slugging it out with Seth?
😂 You want to discuss Odin's records against Heralds? Iight then, make the appropriate thread and we'll have a go at it.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First, I agree with Rage's point that there is a BIT of a double standard going on here, in the end though, I don't believe Galactus and Odin are equals. That alone means that Galactus (by being more powerful alone) could beat Zoom, while Odin couldn't. Make no mistake though, I believe Odin wins and it would be pretty quick.One thing Rage.. You said Odin has faced down people of the same level and Ilk.. I disagree with that... Galactus has faced T&A, Mephisto is his realm, In-Betweener, Celesials (and actually won) just to name a few. All these people are above ANYBODY Odin has ever faced let alone beat.
Side question: When has Galactus ever faced a Celestial and won? The Black Galaxy arc?
Fun fact: A weaker incarnation of King Thor was facing an entity with half of the In-Betweener's power I believe and was holding his own if not winning. Mephisto bragged about being Odin's equal in his realm.
Meh, I'm letting my interest for the character side track me, I apologize.
Originally posted by Uriel005
That wasn't by any stretch of imagination a normal zeus...
No, it was a -slightly- amped Zeus. And I never claimed that Zeus was at his standard power level.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't care how you rank the two and honestly, my opinion means shit all in regards to the current discussion. We're comparing feats, and since some individuals have been particularly interested in using certain showings/feats, watching it backfire is amusing.Side question: When has Galactus ever faced a Celestial and won? The Black Galaxy arc?
Fun fact: A weaker incarnation of King Thor was facing an entity with half of the In-Betweener's power I believe and was holding his own if not winning. Mephisto bragged about being Odin's equal in his realm.
Meh, I'm letting my interest for the character side track me, I apologize.
No, it was a -slightly- amped Zeus. And I never claimed that Zeus was at his standard power level.
That arc is an example, even with the context of the arc, it's still a good example. Why.. well because Odin was also amped... with a pantheon of power behind him.. in the destroyer with the Odin sword.... and got wrecked with ease. Galactus wasn't even amped per se.... it's just that his hunger his hunger was increased exponentionally. I would also cite... Galactus as the last one standing against the Engine.. while the celestials there were taken out. I would also cite IIRC Galactus being responsible for Tiamut before "asleep" for thousands of years.
Not sure why you're referencing somebody have Half of the In-Betweener's power and doing well, when a weakend Galactus faced the full powered IB and was holding his own. The point is buddy, Galactus has faced, beaten or held his own against better quality foes. Really no getting around that which was my point. I agree about the double standards here though.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That arc is an example, even with the context of the arc, it's still a good example. Why.. well because Odin was also amped... with a pantheon of power behind him.. in the destroyer with the Odin sword.... and got wrecked with ease. Galactus wasn't even amped per se.... it's just that his hunger his hunger was increased exponentionally. I would also cite... Galactus as the last one standing against the Engine.. while the celestials there were taken out. I would also cite IIRC Galactus being responsible for Tiamut before "asleep" for thousands of years.Not sure why you're referencing somebody have Half of the In-Betweener's power and doing well, when a weakend Galactus faced the full powered IB and was holding his own. The point is buddy, Galactus has faced, beaten or held his own against better quality foes. Really no getting around that which was my point. I agree about the double standards here though.
But you have to admit Kurupt, Galactus low showings are worse than Odins? Half of the things that has happened to Galactus has never even been noticed by Odin.
Originally posted by carver9Galactus has more showings though and his power fluctuates dramatically like Odin has on occasion. The real difference is most of Galactus' battles are while weakened to some extent. Rarely if ever have we ever seen him at full power. Portrayal wise he's more powerful than Odin. feats are a horrible way also to determine who is more powerful in this case when it's clear writers have Galactus as clearly portrayed as more powerful.
But you have to admit Kurupt, Galactus low showings are worse than Odins? Half of the things that has happened to Galactus has never even been noticed by Odin.
That aside either is powerful enough and with the perceptions needed to oneshot Zoom.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus has more showings though and his power fluctuates dramatically like Odin has on occasion. The real difference is most of Galactus' battles are while weakened to some extent. Rarely if ever have we ever seen him at full power. Portrayal wise he's more powerful than Odin. feats are a horrible way also to determine who is more powerful in this case when it's clear writers have Galactus as clearly portrayed as more powerful.That aside either is powerful enough and with the perceptions needed to oneshot Zoom.
Well, what is a average big G because if we never seen him at full potential (minus what ifs) then his entire character is nothing but hyyperbole... kind of like Hulk vs unlimited strength. All I know is that looking at feats, Odin is presented as more powerful, going by "hype", Galactus is more powerful. Which one do we accept more, hype or feats? Odin rarely if ever fails against high level beings and when he does, he makes a fight out of it.
The only thing that you all can potentially use against Odin is his showings against the Celestials but that could lead to Celestials just being better built to handle Odins powers than vice verse.
What we also know is that Thanos couldn't even flinch Odin during their fight whereas he sent Galactus flying. Then we have Zeus, who was arguably amped (it was never mentioned in the story) by Chaos King (who could have just fed off off Zeus own powers and used ONLY Zeus powers against Big G) dropping Galactus with a mere blast and could have crippled him with a second one. IMO a normal Zeus and a normal Odin are about equals and this is "outside of amping".
Sometimes feats are useful and sometimes they are not, which one do we use for Galactus? His low and mid showings pales to Odins average showings and Heralds has damaged him (Beta Ray, Thor, and probably more that I do not know of or can't think about right now). Heralds can't even flinch Odin and low Skyfathers (Thanos) can't flinch him either.
Originally posted by carver9Odin isn't presented as more powerful. Not at all. When Galactus fails it's because his power levels are weakened it'd be like using Odin battles when the odinsleep was necessary. You rarely if ever get anything.
Well, what is a average big G because if we never seen him at full potential (minus what ifs) then his entire character is nothing but hyyperbole... kind of like Hulk vs unlimited strength. All I know is that looking at feats, Odin is presented as more powerful, going by "hype", Galactus is more powerful. Which one do we accept more, hype or feats? Odin rarely if ever fails against high level beings and when he does, he makes a fight out of it.The only thing that you all can potentially use against Odin is his showings against the Celestials but that could lead to Celestials just being better built to handle Odins powers than vice verse.
What we also know is that Thanos couldn't even flinch Odin during their fight whereas he sent Galactus flying. Then we have Zeus, who was arguably amped (it was never mentioned in the story) by Chaos King (who could have just fed off off Zeus own powers and used ONLY Zeus powers against Big G) dropping Galactus with a mere blast and could have crippled him with a second one. IMO a normal Zeus and a normal Odin are about equals and this is "outside of amping".
Sometimes feats are useful and sometimes they are not, which one do we use for Galactus? His low and mid showings pales to Odins average showings and Heralds has damaged him (Beta Ray, Thor, and probably more that I do not know of or can't think about right now). Heralds can't even flinch Odin and low Skyfathers (Thanos) can't flinch him either.
Odin at his base power levels couldn't even affect Arishem.
We also know what one blast from Galactus almost killed Thanos and that Thanos admitted his power was liliiputian in comparison whereas he disagreed with Odin as being more powerful. Trading blows with someone for an entire comic with no shields vs. admitting right out of the gate you can't overpower Galactus speaks for itself.
Zeus amped by Chaos King disqualifies this entirely.
Thanos did flinch Odin and the only time Thanos was even midly irritated was when Odin brought out gungir after a lengthy back and forth battle for position. Odin's been routed by an army of ants with an army at his side. We will have an actual battle between these two hopefully and I will be there to laugh in your face.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin isn't presented as more powerful. Not at all. When Galactus fails it's because his power levels are weakened it'd be like using Odin battles when the odinsleep was necessary. You rarely if ever get anything.Odin at his base power levels couldn't even affect Arishem.
We also know what one blast from Galactus almost killed Thanos and that Thanos admitted his power was liliiputian in comparison whereas he disagreed with Odin as being more powerful. Trading blows with someone for an entire comic with no shields vs. admitting right out of the gate you can't overpower Galactus speaks for itself.
Zeus amped by Chaos King disqualifies this entirely.
Thanos did flinch Odin and the only time Thanos was even midly irritated was when Odin brought out gungir after a lengthy back and forth battle for position. Odin's been routed by an army of ants with an army at his side. We will have an actual battle between these two hopefully and I will be there to laugh in your face.
Lol... you completely missed my entire post. I wrote all of that for nothing. Just know that Odin doesn't share those high herald feats with Galactus.
Show me what a fully fed Galactus can do. Show me what a normal Galactus can do because from what I know of the character, his hunger is "never" satisfied.
Originally posted by carver9You brought up Thanos as a comparison and showed once more you don't understand or comprehend that in both showings Thanos was a peer of Odin's while he wasn't a peer of Galactus in terms of overall power at the time.
Lol... you completely missed my entire post. I wrote all of that for nothing. Just know that Odin doesn't share those high herald feats with Galactus.Show me what a fully fed Galactus can do. Show me what a normal Galactus can do because from what I know of the character, his hunger is "never" satisfied.
A well nourished Galactus can almost kill Thanos with the backing of his shield in one shot as opposed to Odin who blasted more than 4 times without any shields and Thanos was still in the fight. That's a direct comparison showing Galactus is head and shoulders above Odin in terms of overall power.
We will find out soon enough as Odin is going to clash with Odin so let's see if your feats can save Odin here against my portrayal which always undermines feats in the end. I would hope after 6 years on here you'd understand that by now.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You brought up Thanos as a comparison and showed once more you don't understand or comprehend that in both showings Thanos was a peer of Odin's while he wasn't a peer of Galactus in terms of overall power at the time.A well nourished Galactus can almost kill Thanos with the backing of his shield in one shot as opposed to Odin who blasted more than 4 times without any shields and Thanos was still in the fight. That's a direct comparison showing Galactus is head and shoulders above Odin in terms of overall power.
We will find out soon enough as Odin is going to clash with Odin so let's see if your feats can save Odin here against my portrayal which always undermines feats in the end. I would hope after 6 years on here you'd understand that by now.
Thanos couldn't budge Odin... Thanos sent Galactus flying. Do you not understand that? Odin busted through Thanos force block like candy. By the way, you are contradicting yourself but that's for another topic.
Thanos and Odins are not equals. Thanos would never come close to Odin feats.
Originally posted by carver9Thanos really didn't do any real damage to Galactus with the blast but Galactus almost killed him with one blast with a shield protecting him. There is no comparison Galactus is flat out a lot more powerful than Odin. end of story with a direct comparison I say.
Thanos couldn't budge Odin... Thanos sent Galactus flying. Do you not understand that? Odin busted through Thanos force block like candy. By the way, you are contradicting yourself but that's for another topic.Thanos and Odins are not equals. Thanos would never come close to Odin feats.
Feats have nothing to do with it. When comparing power levels you see how these characters match up not exclusive feats.
Originally posted by carver9You being here for almost ten years actually is worse.
By the way, I have been with the forum since either 2002 or 2003 but the acct I had, didn't like the name and I also forgot the password so I switched to carver9.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos really didn't do any real damage to Galactus with the blast but Galactus almost killed him with one blast with a shield protecting him. There is no comparison Galactus is flat out a lot more powerful than Odin. end of story with a direct comparison I say.Feats have nothing to do with it. When comparing power levels you see how these characters match up not exclusive feats.
You being here for almost ten years actually is worse.
Buddy, all of this is your opinion. I do believe that Galactus could beat Odin but not easily IMO (IN MY OPINION).
Me being here almost 10 yrs have given me the extraordinary talent that you see today.
Originally posted by carver9It isn't my opinion it's a fact Galactus was more powerful than Thanos by a considerable amount whereas it wasn't the case for Odin hence their lon g drawn out fight with no winner.
Buddy, all of this is your opinion. I do believe that Galactus could beat Odin but not easily IMO (IN MY OPINION).Me being here almost 10 yrs have given me the extraordinary talent that you see today.
