Wrecker vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's like congratulating only the one who became a mother and ignoring the obvious "contribution" from her man.

Veranke got DVP'd by Logan and Cage and thus we have a newborn baby (Wrecker). No DNA tests, so both guys are considered his dad. Is my point clear now? 😛

But this is not Spidey/Wolverine thread. I'm not trying to make a legitimate argument for that battle in this thread. Just feeling happy for Parker's failure, nothing more. And I already corrected myself that he immobilized him at the end.

Against my degree of invulnerability you need Tick's spoon.

But breaking a bycicle on someone's head is not a failure, its an auto WIN. Taking a nap under a column, that's a failure 😒.

And unless you're pre-retconned Beyonder Tick's spoon wont be needed.

Originally posted by SamZED
lol yeah its clear and even makes sense in a weord kind of way..

But breaking a bycicle on someone's head is not a failure, its an auto WIN. Taking a nap under a column, that's a failure 😒.

And unless you're pre-retconned Beyonder Tick's spoon wont be needed.

Bendis used to write some good fighting scenes, like that Wrecker battle. He got worse over the years, imo.

True. Settle for an adamantium spoon then.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Bendis used to write some good fighting scenes, like that Wrecker battle. He got worse over the years, imo.

True. Settle for an adamantium spoon then.

As for adamantium.. 😖hifty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFutWATCPg0#t=0m34s (fastforward to 34 seconds)

Originally posted by SamZED
Yeah, Bendis is pretty good when he doesnt wank his fav characters,

As for adamantium.. 😖hifty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFutWATCPg0#t=0m34s (fastforward to 34 seconds)

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Considering taht it's fanmade that's pretty damn good, at least the first part 😂

Batman vs Wolverine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O6EPYYuzLc
Batman pwned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks8PZ8X6Yo8&feature=relmfu

Originally posted by SamZED
Yeah, Bendis is pretty good when he doesnt wank his fav characters,

As for adamantium.. 😖hifty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFutWATCPg0#t=0m34s (fastforward to 34 seconds)

Not what I mean. He got lazy. Look at Siege or the battle with Apocalypse. Most stuff takes place off-panel.

Can't stand it, too embarassing 😂 I know this channel, watched Batman videos before. Pure gold.

Originally posted by SamZED
Its safe to say he was amped. Loki is tough but he's not more durable than Thor or BRB and they both felt Pete's attacks.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not what I mean. He got lazy. Look at Siege or the battle with Apocalypse. Most stuff takes place off-panel.

Can't stand it, too embarassing 😂 I know this channel, watched Batman videos before. Pure gold.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For the record, Loki wasn't amped. He's just that durable.

Originally posted by SamZED
Yeah, the ending of Siege seemed kinda rushed.

More durable than BRB or Hulk?

Guy bounced back from an attack by Surter, amped on the COAW, casually took getting decapitated, schooled Surfer...

So maybe.

Originally posted by SamZED
More durable than BRB or Hulk?

Spidey knocking Hulk ad Beta Ray Bill off-balance when they're caught off-guard is one thing. But when characters of this class assert their durability, class 20 punches aren't going to do the job. Besides, Loki's taken a barrage of Thor punches/kicks with a snarl, Spidey just isn't in his class.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Savage Hulk has made Spider-Man's punches look equally feeble too when he asserts his durability:

Spidey knocking Hulk ad Beta Ray Bill off-balance when they're caught off-guard is one thing. But when characters of this class assert their durability, class 20 punches aren't going to do the job. Besides, Loki's taken a barrage of Thor punches/kicks with a snarl, Spidey just isn't in his class.

Originally posted by cdtm
Guy bounced back from an attack by Surter, amped on the COAW, casually took getting decapitated, schooled Surfer...

So maybe.

Originally posted by SamZED
There are at least half a dozen instances where Spider-man's punches effected Hulk when he was ready for them. They didnt do any real damage ofcourse but he could never take them without fliching like Loki did. Im not saying Spider-man should've cracked his ribs or something, but he should've registered them at least.

Originally posted by SamZED
If that's the case ok then. But I could swear ive seen Thor do a lot of damage to Loki with just a couple of punches.

Loki is a very versatile legit herals level character what's the big deal here?

I'm pretty sure recently Hercules no sold a barrage from Spider-Man unharmed and Peter hurt his hands.

On the other hand, Parker was managing to hurt Masterson with his blitz. For whatever it's worth though, under DeFalco's pen as well, Dargo Ktor no sold attacks from 2099 Spider-Man and the webslinger hurt himself in the process.

The thing about Masterson is that he can go from being a completely useless whiny little b*tch to a beast depending on how confident he's feeling that day. For example, a blow from Ulik had a significant affect in their first bout, but in their second, it was much less noticeable in terms of damage. Take that as you will.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You need to reread his fights with Spider-Man. Caught off-guard or off-balance (because of Spidey's banter/agility), and Spidey maybe does something. Otherwise, Hulk shrugs them off easily. And he's done that more times than you think (or care to remember):
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http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5656/feat17fight2vj4.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1396/feat10fight1nu0.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6105/feat10fight4yc8.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3610/feat11fight1gk6.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8066/feat11fight2sg9.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3522/feat20fight4mv9.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8274/feat33fight6vv0.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3589/feat41fight1qs9.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3068/feat41fight2jl8.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7456/feat41fight4vn3.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/139/feat41fight5tr3.jpg

Once again, I know he can't possibly do any real damage to Loki, but the fact that his attacks couldnt even make him flinch suggest Loki was either amped or it was a poor showing for Spider-man.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Loki is a very versatile legit herals level character what's the big deal here?

Hold on, wasn't the Loki scene written by JMS? The guy wrote a crazy powerful Spider-Man. I remember in particular the scene where he fought the Gamma Irradiated Mobster who was in Hulk's strength class or whatever. Had him going head to head and everything. Or when he punked Iron Man. I remember loling when he had Peter claim that he had found a way to finally kill the Hulk for good.

Anyways, my point is that I find it highly unlikely that JMS would lowball Spider-Man. It'd be like once in a blue moon, and he certainly wouldn't have made it consistent. Which Spider-Man's inferiority to Loki was.

Ironically he completely defeated Hulk in the fight that was shown on the Tv screen in the bar.

And no I don't think something like this should happen.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I also lol'd when he had Peter claim he had found a way to finally kill the Hulk for good.

It seemed like he was going out of his way to show that Peter could take down the Hulk. I remember counting all the Hulk references at one point. There was like half a dozen I think.