Gabriel Belmont vs. Kratos

Started by Burning thought19 pages

Its canon and Kratos takes a force so high in canon.

You dont fight that many, I bet if you added all those in the game it would only come to a hundred or two but thats your claim to prove. The other titans were not 100th as big.

"seems like" is not a strong ground, he is the sun god, the sun being one of the most prominent entities in most mythology and in modern science due to its power. Even so, I dont think he did more than irritate the Titan.

You see most of the Gods and titans in just GoW 3. Whats unfair is you putting poor lickle lords of shadow up against titans who can crush his entire verse by themselves.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its canon and Kratos takes a force so high in canon.

You dont fight that many, I bet if you added all those in the game it would only come to a hundred or two but thats your claim to prove. The other titans were not 100th as big.

"seems like" is not a strong ground, he is the sun god, the sun being one of the most prominent entities in most mythology and in modern science due to its power. Even so, I dont think he did more than irritate the Titan.

You see most of the Gods and titans in just GoW 3. Whats unfair is you putting poor lickle lords of shadow up against titans who can crush his entire verse by themselves.

And Kratos also gets hurt by less in canon.

I don't know about that we see Hades take them on on 2 and he isn't as big as a los Titan yet they didn't dwarf him.

I think he was doing more than just irritate the titan just not enough at that point critically injure or defeat him.

That depends on the verse and this is one verse that isn't happening in.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And Kratos also gets hurt by less in canon.

I don't know about that we see Hades take them on on 2 and he isn't as big as a los Titan yet they didn't dwarf him.

I think he was doing more than just irritate the titan just not enough at that point critically injure or defeat him.

That depends on the verse and this is one verse that isn't happening in.

So far your only example in canon was Zeus who is more still....

Hes larger and he can soul rape, sort of gives him an advantage, as can the fact he can jump a mile into the air or w/e.

Nah, it just flinches and catches fire in its hands.

Ofc it is, los is weak.

And Kratos also gets hurt by less in canon.

For instance..? Keeping in mind that the strength of Kratos, Cronos and Zeus are on par with each other.

Oh and Hades has that god height-changing thing. Cronos has been stated by devs to be 440m tall, compared to the Ice Titan who is at best 40m tall. Thats the same as a 6 foot tall person standing over something only 6 inch tall. Yeah, that sounds like dwarfing to me..

^Cronos was stated to be 500 meters tall. Or 1640 feet.

Hades won through soul rape anyway. Not pure strength not that the Gods despite their size dont have Titan strength anyway.

Originally posted by Burning thought
So far your only example in canon was Zeus who is more still....

Hes larger and he can soul rape, sort of gives him an advantage, as can the fact he can jump a mile into the air or w/e.

Nah, it just flinches and catches fire in its hands.

Ofc it is, los is weak.

That's an example in canon so it still works for me.

Hades isn't larger than a los Titan. Not even close.

You can see his attacks clearly affect him.

Los is pretty formidable as far as single video game universes go.

Originally posted by BloodRain
For instance..? Keeping in mind that the strength of Kratos, Cronos and Zeus are on par with each other.

Oh and Hades has that god height-changing thing. Cronos has been stated by devs to be 440m tall, compared to the Ice Titan who is at best 40m tall. Thats the same as a 6 foot tall person standing over something only 6 inch tall. Yeah, that sounds like dwarfing to me..

Hades wasn't dwarfed so there went your point. If someone the size of Hades can do this to a Titan why can't a los Titan hurt them as well ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's an example in canon so it still works for me.

Hades isn't larger than a los Titan. Not even close.

You can see his attacks clearly affect him.

Los is pretty formidable as far as single video game universes go.
Hades wasn't dwarfed so there went your point. If someone the size of Hades can do this to a Titan why can't a los Titan hurt them as well ?

Its an example of someone as strong as him, not someone far weaker.

Their only 40-50 meters max, considering the 500+ meter titans and the Gods who can defeat them without too much trouble, trying to even mension the Los titans is worthless.

In flinching.

Not when compared to most that are debated here.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its an example of someone as strong as him, not someone far weaker.

Their only 40-50 meters max, considering the 500+ meter titans and the Gods who can defeat them without too much trouble, trying to even mension the Los titans is worthless.

In flinching.

Not when compared to most that are debated here.

Zeus doesn't have the strength feats of Kratos so even according to your own logic it fails.

No, it isn't since characters far less in size and stature have shown the power to defeat/hurt them.

If you think it's comparable to a flinch I suggest re-watching it.

You think they'd even lose to hyrule ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus doesn't have the strength feats of Kratos so even according to your own logic it fails.

No, it isn't since characters far less in size and stature have shown the power to defeat/hurt them.

If you think it's comparable to a flinch I suggest re-watching it.

You think they'd even lose to hyrule ?

He strikes blow for blow with Kratos and they fight almost as equels in their battles.

But far more in power, speed and variety of attack.

I suggest you play the game.

Yes, as little as I belive in LoZ hype I think LoZ as a series and indeed hyrule have proven to have some more power behind them. Most of LoS are just mooks and the top tiers cannot match with top tiers of other factions.

Originally posted by Burning thought
He strikes blow for blow with Kratos and they fight almost as equels in their battles.

But far more in power, speed and variety of attack.

I suggest you play the game.

Yes, as little as I belive in LoZ hype I think LoZ as a series and indeed hyrule have proven to have some more power behind them. Most of LoS are just mooks and the top tiers cannot match with top tiers of other factions.

So you admit feats don't matter after all that ?

So Hades is known for his speed now ? The Titans certainly aren't quick from the gow.

I beat the game unlike you with your limited experience if any with los.

Wow. With feats los's gabriel Belmont would annihilate Link and anyone in hyrule one on one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit feats don't matter after all that ?

So Hades is known for his speed now ? The Titans certainly aren't quick from the gow.

I beat the game unlike you with your limited experience if any with los.

Wow. With feats los's gabriel Belmont would annihilate Link and anyone in hyrule one on one.

That is a feat, if Kratos can defeat Titan strength and then Zeus can go blow to blow with him then Zeus has a feat.

Hades is pretty quick considering his size, his agility is fairly impressive.

I doubt it, if you had beat the game you would know Gabriel has no powers worth a damn to Kratos.

You just said "hyrule", as in verse vs verse, although I doubt he could even beat Link, let alone more impressive characters like Ganon or even Zant.

Originally posted by Burning thought
That is a feat, if Kratos can defeat Titan strength and then Zeus can go blow to blow with him then Zeus has a feat.

Hades is pretty quick considering his size, his agility is fairly impressive.

I doubt it, if you had beat the game you would know Gabriel has no powers worth a damn to Kratos.

You just said "hyrule", as in verse vs verse, although I doubt he could even beat Link, let alone more impressive characters like Ganon or even Zant.

So if Gabriel has the feats yet the enemies he faces can possibly defeat/kill him then those are feats as well. Around and around we go where we stop only bt knows.

No, it's nowhere near close to Gabriel's. For his size maybe but he's not very quick just dangerous with his claws.

LOL. I guess you missed the part of Gabriel overpowering a giant ogre or no selling a black knight sword strike.

What feats does Link have more impressive than Gabriel ? You don't even make sense as every Link is different and he pales in comparison featwise to Gabriel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So if Gabriel has the feats yet the enemies he faces can possibly defeat/kill him then those are feats as well. Around and around we go where we stop only bt knows.

No, it's nowhere near close to Gabriel's. For his size maybe but he's not very quick just dangerous with his claws.

LOL. I guess you missed the part of Gabriel overpowering a giant ogre or no selling a black knight sword strike.

What feats does Link have more impressive than Gabriel ? You don't even make sense as every Link is different and he pales in comparison featwise to Gabriel.

Not sure even you know your saying here.

hades agility is incredible for his size;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fEFd_BiXQg#t=0m45s

Leaping hundreds of meters in seconds.

Ogre is nothing on Titans, and the black knight is equally tiny, you cant compare tiny low scale feats against Kratos' enormous ones and hope to win.

Tossing 5/600 ton pillars for one, plus a large list of powers going from invisability to archery of great accuracy. Each link seems to have some powers although I admit, I have seen only things on OoT link and TP, other links may be weaker but this is apart from your question, since you claimed he could beat anyone in hyrule 1 on 1.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Not sure even you know your saying here.

hades agility is incredible for his size;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fEFd_BiXQg#t=0m45s

Leaping hundreds of meters in seconds.

Ogre is nothing on Titans, and the black knight is equally tiny, you cant compare tiny low scale feats against Kratos' enormous ones and hope to win.

Tossing 5/600 ton pillars for one, plus a large list of powers going from invisability to archery of great accuracy. Each link seems to have some powers although I admit, I have seen only things on OoT link and TP, other links may be weaker but this is apart from your question, since you claimed he could beat anyone in hyrule 1 on 1.

Hahahaha, yes because he displayed that kind of agility all the time and that's exactly what the creators had in mind for that scene. He avoided an attack from a slower titan.

The ogre isn't as great as a titan but gabriel overpowered one showing how strong he is and that he's strong enough to injure them.

That isn't proven just like the rocks gabriel punches isn't proven either it's just guesses from overzealous fans. I played through tp so I can speak for that Link. the guy isn't as skilled, as strong, or as powerful as gabriel so I have no idea why you would cite this Link as superior to Gabriel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hahahaha, yes because he displayed that kind of agility all the time and that's exactly what the creators had in mind for that scene. He avoided an attack from a slower titan.

The ogre isn't as great as a titan but gabriel overpowered one showing how strong he is and that he's strong enough to injure them.

That isn't proven just like the rocks gabriel punches isn't proven either it's just guesses from overzealous fans. I played through tp so I can speak for that Link. the guy isn't as skilled, as strong, or as powerful as gabriel so I have no idea why you would cite this Link as superior to Gabriel.

Clearly they did otherwise they would not have put so much effort into putting it into the cinematic.

Hes strong enough to injure ogres, not Titans.

Its proven enough, you can calculate based on materials and size. TP link is brought up by link fans as being especially strong purely because he can apprently fight hand to hand with ganon ,although most links have other equipment from masks to bombs and such.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Clearly they did otherwise they would not have put so much effort into putting it into the cinematic.

Hes strong enough to injure ogres, not Titans.

Its proven enough, you can calculate based on materials and size. TP link is brought up by link fans as being especially strong purely because he can apprently fight hand to hand with ganon ,although most links have other equipment from masks to bombs and such.

Clearly they weren't thinking hey this guy is going to jump hundreds of miles here. Clearly.

Why not ? When did a Titan resist a piercing attack ?

No, it's guesstimation nothing is a given it's just fans trying to assign a real world number to something.

Dorf isn't that strong either I mean he's exaggerated to laughable ends. Gabriel would beat both of them easily at the same time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Clearly they weren't thinking hey this guy is going to jump hundreds of miles here. Clearly.

Why not ? When did a Titan resist a piercing attack ?

No, it's guesstimation nothing is a given it's just fans trying to assign a real world number to something.

Dorf isn't that strong either I mean he's exaggerated to laughable ends. Gabriel would beat both of them easily at the same time.

Wow, then how did the design team spend hundreds of man hours perfectin a cinematic? its not just a scribbled piece on a comic book page which is where I think your going with this, most of your "portrayle" and "designers did not intend" rubbish is based purely on speculation from a comic book standpoint where some characters are written differently in some comics. This is not the case with games vs.

Because Titans are thousadns times the strength of ogres, you cant hurt someone thousands of times more reisstant.

Not really, but for someone who does not use proof or even look at any source or study it you dont know anything about the evidence.

He has a vast list of powers from lightning, flight, teleportation and possession that would ruin Gabriels day.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
^Cronos was stated to be 500 meters tall. Or 1640 feet.

Ah yeah. Do remember the 1600 figure, but didnt the same guy say he's as tall as the Sears tower?

Hades wasn't dwarfed so there went your point. If someone the size of Hades can do this to a Titan why can't a los Titan hurt them as well ?

1. "Oh and Hades has that god height-changing thing"
2. Hades was dwarfed by Cronos, he was less than1/10th the height.
3. This was a worn out Cronos at the the great war against the GoW gods.
4. It was a soul pulling attack, not a regular one like the people in LoS afaik do.

I don't remember exactly what he said regarding the Sears tower.

Sears tower is over 500 meters tall anyway, including the spires.