Building heights are taken from the roof though.
"(...)A couple of our Titans are as tall as the Sears Tower(...)"
Another interview may have said something else so... /shrugs
Either way a 40m, no strength feat Ice Titan wont pose a GoW Titan any threat.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtSo if we asked the team that set up the scene do you think they'd say Hades was easily jumping miles in that scene ?
Wow, then how did the design team spend hundreds of man hours perfectin a cinematic? its not just a scribbled piece on a comic book page which is where I think your going with this, most of your "portrayle" and "designers did not intend" rubbish is based purely on speculation from a comic book standpoint where some characters are written differently in some comics. This is not the case with games vs.Because Titans are thousadns times the strength of ogres, you cant hurt someone thousands of times more reisstant.
Not really, but for someone who does not use proof or even look at any source or study it you dont know anything about the evidence.
He has a vast list of powers from lightning, flight, teleportation and possession that would ruin Gabriels day.
Yes, they can just like Poseidon did pre amped by the water. The Titans weren't anywhere near the badasses you would have thought they'd be once things started happening.
If you think they are real numbers and factual provide the source by the creators confirming the fact. You made the claim now back it up.
Unlike you I played the game and his powers wouldn't do a thing to Gabriel who has far better strength feats and reaction times. If you actually played the game you'd know this.
Originally posted by BloodRain1.He didn't use his enormous size against Kratos so no it doesn't matter.Fankly I think it's a point they overlooked or changed in part 3.
Ah yeah. Do remember the 1600 figure, but didnt the same guy say he's as tall as the Sears tower?1. "Oh and Hades has that god height-changing thing"
2. Hades was dwarfed by Cronos, he was less than1/10th the height.
3. This was a worn out Cronos at the the great war against the GoW gods.
4. It was a soul pulling attack, not a regular one like the people in LoS afaik do.
Yeah he did. He was Zeus and co height normally, house sized against Kratos and a tad more godly in height against the Titans. Yeah, that or they know he can alter his height as shown.
Hurt him in a non-physical way. Size doesnt matter when youre a guy with the strength of a skyscraper tall Titan..
Cant expect flashy moves against a bug crawling up your arm. All you can do is smack it. Cronos tried that once. The bug murderized him for it.
Seeing as LoS isnt bringing any soulsucking to the table we can set that aside. Now what was the other one... Kratos? Did you miss the part where the small angry guy resisted getting squashed by the big guy? If you tried to squash a bug and the bug smacked your hand away, that bug could cut you up as easily as any other person could. Reason being he has the same strength. Important: If you dont have the size of your foe you better hope you have their strength. Kratos does. Now lets look at LoS; The titans here can fit on one of Cronos' hands, all 3 of them together. Ok they dont have the height, but does their strength compare to his? Lets see, the Ice Titan can break through a frozen late.....
So in the end the height doesnt compare and strength is something Cronos can do with a finger unless theres a better strength feat around...
Originally posted by BloodRainAll it shows is Hades altered his size against a bigger foe so he wouldn't do so against the los enemies. Zeus along with Ares showed the ability to gain supersize but most of the gods don't and have never shown the ability whether they can or not.
Yeah he did. He was Zeus and co height normally, house sized against Kratos and a tad more godly in height against the Titans. Yeah, that or they know he can alter his height as shown.Hurt him in a non-physical way. Size doesnt matter when youre a guy with the strength of a skyscraper tall Titan..
Cant expect flashy moves against a bug crawling up your arm. All you can do is smack it. Cronos tried that once. The bug murderized him for it.
Seeing as LoS isnt bringing any soulsucking to the table we can set that aside. Now what was the other one... Kratos? Did you miss the part where the small angry guy resisted getting squashed by the big guy? If you tried to squash a bug and the bug smacked your hand away, that bug could cut you up as easily as any other person could. Reason being he has the same strength. Important: If you dont have the size of your foe you better hope you have their strength. Kratos does. Now lets look at LoS; The titans here can fit on one of Cronos' hands, all 3 of them together. Ok they dont have the height, but does their strength compare to his? Lets see, the Ice Titan can break through a frozen late.....
So in the end the height doesnt compare and strength is something Cronos can do with a finger unless theres a better strength feat around...
Poseidon hurt a Titan physically and we see how weak he was against Kratos in the form that hurt the Titan so that's relevant to physically hurting one.
Cronos showed how incredibly slow he was with his reaction times an dhow utterly confused he was against Kratos.
They don't need to soulsuck since we have seen physical attacks hurt the Titans and defeat them.
Kratos didn't have the same strength as Cronos. Don't be ridiculous he was strong enough to temporarily resist his actions to kill him. If I hold someone at bay and then blind them that doesn't mean I am as strong as they are. Not at all.
So you think despite Poseidon, Helios, and Kratos physically killing/hurting the Titans that the los characters couldn't even injure them now ? Wow.
None of that is in regards to the point that Hades was drawfed by the titans as would the los titans.
Its hard to judge a person when they got tackled by a speeding Kratos and thrown into a wall. Not that it matters as his strength is below Kratos'. Also hard to call a guy that does a speeding dive to headbutt a giant stone creature weak. He has the strength to push over a smaller titan, hes below a guy that can rival their strength.
It may seem slow, but if he at his size does anything its going to be fast in relation to smaller folk. Saying this we already know he can move fast when he wants to, that slap for instance.
Physical things that have hurt the Titans; Rammed by a speeding god with the force to send a giant rock-man down the mountain. Kratos like strength. Titan sized seahorsecrabs. Stronger, stronger, bigger&stronger than anything in the LoS verse.
By saying that I think youre on about the wrong feat. Im talking about thi-... oh wait you dont look at vids... The scene half way through the fight where Cronos has Kratos on one hand and smacks him a great speeds with the other one. For Kratos to resist the slap and even push the hand off him. Not the blinding scene...
Kratos with strength to resist and a godly weapon, Poseidon with the strength to knock down a rock titan and Helios... wait, didnt he just hurl fireballs or something?... anyhow, the two have shown strength far beyond anything the LoS verse has thrown up. Knocking a rock titan down & resisting Cronos >>> breaking an ice lake. Why dont you go ahead and tell me what kind of strength and damage the LoS cast can deal so we can see if the Titans should be at all threatened.
Originally posted by BloodRainThe los titans would be smaller but still big enough to hurt the gow titans.
None of that is in regards to the point that Hades was drawfed by the titans as would the los titans.Its hard to judge a person when they got tackled by a speeding Kratos and thrown into a wall. Not that it matters as his strength is below Kratos'. Also hard to call a guy that does a speeding dive to headbutt a giant stone creature weak. He has the strength to push over a smaller titan, hes below a guy that can rival their strength.
It may seem slow, but if he at his size does anything its going to be fast in relation to smaller folk. Saying this we already know he can move fast when he wants to, that slap for instance.
Physical things that have hurt the Titans; Rammed by a speeding god with the force to send a giant rock-man down the mountain. Kratos like strength. Titan sized seahorsecrabs. Stronger, stronger, bigger&stronger than anything in the LoS verse.
By saying that I think youre on about the wrong feat. Im talking about thi-... oh wait you dont look at vids... The scene half way through the fight where Cronos has Kratos on one hand and smacks him a great speeds with the other one. For Kratos to resist the slap and even push the hand off him. Not the blinding scene...
Kratos with strength to resist and a godly weapon, Poseidon with the strength to knock down a rock titan and Helios... wait, didnt he just hurl fireballs or something?... anyhow, the two have shown strength far beyond anything the LoS verse has thrown up. Knocking a rock titan down & resisting Cronos >>> breaking an ice lake. Why dont you go ahead and tell me what kind of strength and damage the LoS cast can deal so we can see if the Titans should be at all threatened.
The point is Poseidon wasn't that formidable when he takes on Kratos in that form and just himself while diving into the titan was enough to beat it. The Titans while immense in size were definitely beatable.
They can move slightly faster yet but not fast enough. When did this thread get hijacked and turned into a los vs. gow 3 ?
I disagree and that whole stronger than anything in the los universe doesn't fly with me. The Titans were shown to be affected by physical attacks time and time again. To say the los characters simply aren't powerful enough to hurt them is disingenuous.
Yes, I remember that. He quickly reacts though and shows he can resist for a moment not that he is as strong as Cronos. He's strong enough to resist momentarily no one would seriously argue Kratos' strength rivals Cronos'.
Look at the sheer size of the Titan from the ice lake. To act like someone with his size and power couldn't harm a Titan when Poseidon has defeated one who didn't display any strength feats or anything to suggest he's even in Kratos' league in his human form tells you enough. To defeat these titans they'd probably blind them I mean hell gabriel did that easily to the ogre so I am sure especially with his new found powers of flight and power this would be an easy task.
Hell, Forgotten One isn't even hurtable until he is using a portion of his power to release the barrier that prevents him from our dimension. This is up against an amped gabriel with insane reaction time and pretty convincing strength feats himself.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So if we asked the team that set up the scene do you think they'd say Hades was easily jumping miles in that scene ?Yes, they can just like Poseidon did pre amped by the water. The Titans weren't anywhere near the badasses you would have thought they'd be once things started happening.
If you think they are real numbers and factual provide the source by the creators confirming the fact. You made the claim now back it up.
Unlike you I played the game and his powers wouldn't do a thing to Gabriel who has far better strength feats and reaction times. If you actually played the game you'd know this.
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We cant ask the team but if we did, they would certainly say so. They have already confirmed 500 meters tall, Hades easily leapt over that 500 meters with ease, fact.
Ofcourse they were badasses, theyt were just facing more powerful badasses. The sort that dont exist in los.
The creators have already confirmed it by putting said objects in the game. Then we math those objects simple. Nobody needs to go back to the developers to confirm "are you sure an object should be that big?!!" since it already is.
I dont really care about Link but you did not really counter most of my argumetns on Ganon.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hell, Forgotten One isn't even hurtable until he is using a portion of his power to release the barrier that prevents him from our dimension. This is up against an amped gabriel with insane reaction time and pretty convincing strength feats himself.
Only their not convincing, their laughable compared to God/Titan strength Kratos. Smashing pillars tiny vs denying enormous Titans.
Define hurt. If 6 inch person started punching you it wouldn't be much cause for concern. Even for the smaller GoW Titans something like the Ice Titan would be like a 1ft tall person fighting us. You'd need the three LoS Titans together to hopefully bring down a small GoW Titan.
Knocking a guy off a cliff <<< resisting a bigger guys attack. Kratos is much stronger but that doesn't make Poseidon weak for it. He still has the strength feat to headbutt a 600 ft rock titan.
Fast enough to crush the LoS larger chars and big enough to wipe out smaller ones. Even since this thread wasn't decided on page on anything became possible.
Id rather you disagree and prove me wrong then simply disagreeing. LoS chars would need feat of power around that of punting a giant rock creature to be able to harm the smaller Titans. I have yet to see this from them.
If you can catch someones punch without buckling in pain your strength is near theirs. You may not want to admit that their of equal strength but you cannot deny that the strength needed there is a magnitude above the best thing seen in LoS.
Yeah, a whole 40m tall. 1/5th the height of the smallest Titans and 1/12 the height of the large ones. Keeping in mind that Gabriel lacks the strength of Poseidon and had to take his titans down by weak points. So Gabriel is going to fly around to each Titan to blind them and wait for a gang of creatures to take them down? All the while avoiding the flying creatures, flying gods, getting shot down by gods etc?
And what would these "insane reaction time and pretty convincing strength feats" be exactly? Which of Gabriel's strength feats would give him the strength to knock a 200 meter tall titan made of rock off a cliff?
Originally posted by Burning thoughtSo Hades can leap that far when his size is augmented not when it isn't like in gow 3.
We cant ask the team but if we did, they would certainly say so. They have already confirmed 500 meters tall, Hades easily leapt over that 500 meters with ease, fact.Ofcourse they were badasses, theyt were just facing more powerful badasses. The sort that dont exist in los.
The creators have already confirmed it by putting said objects in the game. Then we math those objects simple. Nobody needs to go back to the developers to confirm "are you sure an object should be that big?!!" since it already is.
I dont really care about Link but you did not really counter most of my argumetns on Ganon.
Only their not convincing, their laughable compared to God/Titan strength Kratos. Smashing pillars tiny vs denying enormous Titans.
All characters were powerful yes but the titans were very beatable despite their size advantage just like Gabriel bested much larger opponents himself despite being weaker and weighing like 1/10,000 of his opponents.
Then share a link to their official weight and I will happily agree it counts.
Dorf doesn't have the feats to suggest he has anywhere near the skill or invulnerability to survive an attack from gabriel.
Kratos cut out of a titan's stomach that isn't just easily crushing him either it's the same formula. Avoid and survive and do damage when the opportunity presents itself.
Originally posted by BloodRainIf a six inch character attacks your throat or cuts out of your stomach they can kill you. Kratos isn't simply punching Titans into submission he's attacking vulnerable parts of Cronos when the opportunity presents itself.
Define hurt. If 6 inch person started punching you it wouldn't be much cause for concern. Even for the smaller GoW Titans something like the Ice Titan would be like a 1ft tall person fighting us. You'd need the three LoS Titans together to hopefully bring down a small GoW Titan.Knocking a guy off a cliff <<< resisting a bigger guys attack. Kratos is much stronger but that doesn't make Poseidon weak for it. He still has the strength feat to headbutt a 600 ft rock titan.
Fast enough to crush the LoS larger chars and big enough to wipe out smaller ones. Even since this thread wasn't decided on page on anything became possible.
Id rather you disagree and prove me wrong then simply disagreeing. LoS chars would need feat of power around that of punting a giant rock creature to be able to harm the smaller Titans. I have yet to see this from them.
If you can catch someones punch without buckling in pain your strength is near theirs. You may not want to admit that their of equal strength but you cannot deny that the strength needed there is a magnitude above the best thing seen in LoS.
Yeah, a whole 40m tall. 1/5th the height of the smallest Titans and 1/12 the height of the large ones. Keeping in mind that Gabriel lacks the strength of Poseidon and had to take his titans down by weak points. So Gabriel is going to fly around to each Titan to blind them and wait for a gang of creatures to take them down? All the while avoiding the flying creatures, flying gods, getting shot down by gods etc?
And what would these "insane reaction time and pretty convincing strength feats" be exactly? Which of Gabriel's strength feats would give him the strength to knock a 200 meter tall titan made of rock off a cliff?
Yes, the same applies to gow giants as it does to los characters.
The giant titans didn't display anything to suggest even Gabriel codn't cut into his skin based off of his feats. The titans were big but were hurt by Zeus' lightning, Kratos' sword, Poseidon's dive, and Helios' attacks. They didn't display anything above being enormous and really strong because of their overall size.
I agree Zeus' strength is in comparison to Kratos' I was only exposing bt's hypocritical double standards. I think there's no proof Gabriel's cross won't be able to hurt Kratos based on what has effected him prior to and what Gabriel's cross has hurt in his own game. To me it's common sense.
Based on what does Gabriel lack the strength of Poseidon ? He used the speed and momentum to hurt the Titan off the mountain and to bring him into his domain the water. We saw how embarrassing of a fighter he was when Kratos got him free of this water based form. Gabriel would split him in 2.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So Hades can leap that far when his size is augmented not when it isn't like in gow 3.All characters were powerful yes but the titans were very beatable despite their size advantage just like Gabriel bested much larger opponents himself despite being weaker and weighing like 1/10,000 of his opponents.
Then share a link to their official weight and I will happily agree it counts.
Dorf doesn't have the feats to suggest he has anywhere near the skill or invulnerability to survive an attack from gabriel.
Kratos cut out of a titan's stomach that isn't just easily crushing him either it's the same formula. Avoid and survive and do damage when the opportunity presents itself.
What relevence is that? I assume he cant leap that far when hes small, we dont know.
Whats weight to do with it? and he bested enemies not much larger than tall housing, skyscraper/empire state building titans are another level altogether.
You can choose any of the videos of the game listed in their respect threads.
1. Gabriels not that strong and 2. Bowser can fly and teleport, he has more than enough powers to avoid Gabriel and hit him with something harder.
With his incredible strength and the blade of Olmypus. By comparison Gabriel has next to no strength and a tiny piece of silver/wood , he may as well be a child swinging a wooden cross about.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtYou can't assume he can since his size is much smaller and we haven't seen him do so. It's common sense if you're much larger you can leap much farther.
What relevence is that? I assume he cant leap that far when hes small, we dont know.Whats weight to do with it? and he bested enemies not much larger than tall housing, skyscraper/empire state building titans are another level altogether.
You can choose any of the videos of the game listed in their respect threads.
1. Gabriels not that strong and 2. Bowser can fly and teleport, he has more than enough powers to avoid Gabriel and hit him with something harder.
With his incredible strength and the blade of Olmypus. By comparison Gabriel has next to no strength and a tiny piece of silver/wood , he may as well be a child swinging a wooden cross about.
Weight has a lot to do with it unless you have no common sense whatsoever. Kratos and gabriel can't trade blows with characters that dwarf them but do have the necessary strength to hurt them when afforded the opportunity.
1.Gabriel is that strong since he's damaged beings far stronger than himself and destroyed substances far more durable than flesh. What does Bowser have to do with anything ?
Far less has hurt the Titans than the blade of olympus. When has their skin rejected any attack up close ?
Possible. But thats if that character can get to such vital areas. The problem is that these '6 inch' characters are things as large as the Ice Titan. Now hows that thing gonna hit anything more than his feet? And thats if he doesnt get crushed. A human sized character on the other hand against Kratos is like a person fighting someone 2mm tall.. Without Kratos's strength and powerful Blade of Olympus how will someone like Cronos be slain?
Which part?
Lightning is a powerful thing, Kratos cant hurt them with his chain blades, Poseidon has massive strength to do that feat and Helios dint do anything major. These things are stronger, energy wise or strength wise, than what Gabriel can do.
IIRC the most durable thing his cross has hurt was a guy that can survive lava? Or something like that. That isnt too sturdy compared to GoW where Kratos can be inside an erupting volcano. Again being weaker than Kratos doesnt make him compatible to Gabriel. The best feat of strength I can think of for Gabriel is breaking those rocks or that tree. Destroying people sized rocks is far below knocking down a giant titan with a headbutt, which itself is below Kratos' strength. If you disagree then how about you tell me how strong he is from something he's done in the game just so I can compare it to knocking down a guy 100 times your size made of rock.
Originally posted by BloodRainI think an eltire character from the los can inflict the damage necessary if provided the opportunity such as Cornell, Gravedigger, etc. I think the titans although enormous in size demonstrated no feats to suggest someone with superhuman strength can't pierce their skin.
Possible. But thats if that character can get to such vital areas. The problem is that these '6 inch' characters are things as large as the Ice Titan. Now hows that thing gonna hit anything more than his feet? And thats if he doesnt get crushed. A human sized character on the other hand against Kratos is like a person fighting someone 2mm tall.. Without Kratos's strength and powerful Blade of Olympus how will someone like Cronos be slain?Which part?
Lightning is a powerful thing, Kratos cant hurt them with his chain blades, Poseidon has massive strength to do that feat and Helios dint do anything major. These things are stronger, energy wise or strength wise, than what Gabriel can do.
IIRC the most durable thing his cross has hurt was a guy that can survive lava? Or something like that. That isnt too sturdy compared to GoW where Kratos can be inside an erupting volcano. Again being weaker than Kratos doesnt make him compatible to Gabriel. The best feat of strength I can think of for Gabriel is breaking those rocks or that tree. Destroying people sized rocks is far below knocking down a giant titan with a headbutt, which itself is below Kratos' strength. If you disagree then how about you tell me how strong he is from something he's done in the game just so I can compare it to knocking down a guy 100 times your size made of rock.
The same part applying being you have to strike certain parts of the vulnerable titans to beat them if you are dwarfed in size unless you have the power to topple someone of equal or greater size under power alone not being in the right place right time.
I think Poseidon was flying so fast it wasn't a massive strength feat on it's own it has to do with being powerful enough and going fast enough to accomplish he feat to a climbing Titan and then ending up in his place of power, the water.
Durability of lava has nothing to do with as Gabriel showed he was strong enough to hurt someone who lava didn't even both just like he could hurt Kratos. This was also well before he powered up at the end after absorbing the Forgotten One's power.
When did Kratos knock down a Titan with a headbutt ?
When did Kratos knock down a Titan with a headbutt ?
Pick a fight with low-superhuman guy 2 mm tall. How much damage will he do to you even with a sword? Cronos lost from a combination of 3 points; 1. Kratos attack the vitals. 2. Kratos is extremely strong. 3. Kratos used the very powerful BoO. Not many will get to those vitals, no one has Kratos' strength nor do they have a weapon as strong as the BoO.
Yeah... but its not on the same scale. In LoS all Gabriel does is attack the weak points of 40m tall titans. In GoW Kratos has to get the vitals of a 1600m tall titan while resisting physical hits from it. Two different leagues.
Ok. Whether it was his brute strength or getting the force from the speed it still accumulates to Poseidon dealing massive damage. I have yet to see strength or force anywhere near this from LoS.
So if I'm reading right the guy has the durability that lava doesn't effect and Gabriel could stab him..? Thats still kinda low-key to what Kratos has taken.
No, Poseidon could knock down a Titan with a headbutt, and he's physically nothing to Kratos. So what is Gabriel's strength level? Anywhere above rock breaking and tree pulling?
Originally posted by BloodRain
When did Kratos knock down a Titan with a headbutt ?Pick a fight with low-superhuman guy 2 mm tall. How much damage will he do to you even with a sword? Cronos lost from a combination of 3 points; 1. Kratos attack the vitals. 2. Kratos is extremely strong. 3. Kratos used the very powerful BoO. Not many will get to those vitals, no one has Kratos' strength nor do they have a weapon as strong as the BoO.
Yeah... but its not on the same scale. In LoS all Gabriel does is attack the weak points of 40m tall titans. In GoW Kratos has to get the vitals of a 1600m tall titan while resisting physical hits from it. Two different leagues.
Ok. Whether it was his brute strength or getting the force from the speed it still accumulates to Poseidon dealing massive damage. I have yet to see strength or force anywhere near this from LoS.
So if I'm reading right the guy has the durability that lava doesn't effect and Gabriel could stab him..? Thats still kinda low-key to what Kratos has taken.
No, Poseidon could knock down a Titan with a headbutt, and he's physically nothing to Kratos. So what is Gabriel's strength level? Anywhere above rock breaking and tree pulling?
Hmm, BR actively debating for Kratos.
The times are changing.
Originally posted by BloodRainSometimes I misread something because I quickly respond to posts I thought that's what you said.
When did Kratos knock down a Titan with a headbutt ?Pick a fight with low-superhuman guy 2 mm tall. How much damage will he do to you even with a sword? Cronos lost from a combination of 3 points; 1. Kratos attack the vitals. 2. Kratos is extremely strong. 3. Kratos used the very powerful BoO. Not many will get to those vitals, no one has Kratos' strength nor do they have a weapon as strong as the BoO.
Yeah... but its not on the same scale. In LoS all Gabriel does is attack the weak points of 40m tall titans. In GoW Kratos has to get the vitals of a 1600m tall titan while resisting physical hits from it. Two different leagues.
Ok. Whether it was his brute strength or getting the force from the speed it still accumulates to Poseidon dealing massive damage. I have yet to see strength or force anywhere near this from LoS.
So if I'm reading right the guy has the durability that lava doesn't effect and Gabriel could stab him..? Thats still kinda low-key to what Kratos has taken.
No, Poseidon could knock down a Titan with a headbutt, and he's physically nothing to Kratos. So what is Gabriel's strength level? Anywhere above rock breaking and tree pulling?
I don't think the sword of Kratos or his strength is required to be able to pierce the skin or cut through the vital parts of Cronos. I have seen far less hurt him which I have sited. Their skin isn't something super durable just enormous.
I agree Kratos is stronger than Gabriel but this has noting to do with anything as gabriel has hurt/killed stronger foes throughout the entire game just as Kratos has. Neither is immune to each other's attacks and Gabriel is far more powerful imo when he easily tears the Forgotten One in half at the end of the game.
I have yet to see the exact same set of circumstances which greatly benefited Poseidon here.
Yes, gabriel does so with his amazing strength and skill it doesn't matter who is more durable both characters have the strength/[pwer to hurt the other.
Oh, a sped up head butt not just a random headbutt. If it wasn't for that speed and the fact the Titan was claiming something far bigger than himself he more than likely wouldn't have been defeated in that same manner.