Gabriel Belmont vs. Kratos

Originally posted by Burning thought
Burdon of proof is yours, nobody has to go looking for your evidence. If you dont post anything then you have no evidence.

Zeus was not less though AND he was using a sword, Zeus' strength is arguably not too far in difference to Kratos'.

😆 more games? not at all, its an unfair comparison because its chracters are vastly more powerful.

Zeus isn't as strong as Cronos without his size what feats suggest otherwise ?

No, they aren't. I have no idea where you even get that from.

Again, no evidence.

The fact he can handle Kratos?

I dont know, Cornell of the werewolves is a few meters tall and can toss around large rocks. Atlas of the Titans is thousands of meters tall and can toss mountains....thats one character comparison, I could do that for all the LoS characters and make them look worthless as they are by comparison in a fight.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Again, no evidence.

The fact he can handle Kratos?

I dont know, Cornell of the werewolves is a few meters tall and can toss around large rocks. Atlas of the Titans is thousands of meters tall and can toss mountains....thats one character comparison, I could do that for all the LoS characters and make them look worthless as they are by comparison in a fight.

Lots of his enemies can handle Kratos they might not outright beat him but hurt or kill they can do if given the opening.

Atlas would have to be invaded and since the lycans brought down the ancient titans of los I see the same thing occurring here. Los has a few gigantic characters as well with their three titans but then again size only matters when it favors the size you are arguing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I told you where to look I won't post youtube. Not my fault you are entirely ignorant on Gabriel.

Lots of his enemies can handle Kratos they might not outright beat him but hurt or kill they can do if given the opening.

Atlas would have to be invaded and since the lycans brought down the ancient titans of los I see the same thing occurring here. Los has a few gigantic characters as well with their three titans but then again size only matters when it favors the size you are arguing.

If you refuse to post evidence then your wasting everyones time.

They cant and have not, Zeus is the only one iirc who can move around GoW 3 Kratos and take his punches while still giving some out.

The ancient titans are dumb mechanical constructs that were only about as big as Atlas' foot, he could step on all of them as well.

Originally posted by Burning thought
If you refuse to post evidence then your wasting everyones time.

They cant and have not, Zeus is the only one iirc who can move around GoW 3 Kratos and take his punches while still giving some out.

The ancient titans are dumb mechanical constructs that were only about as big as Atlas' foot, he could step on all of them as well.

False. Hades can Cronos can, etc. Atlas won't be taking them on he will be invaded by vampires and lycans alike. Unlike Atlast the titans were made of rock also.

Then dont go on youtube, I just wont be convinced my your claim.

Hades can step on them as well, Cronos could step on them all at once. invaded? how? one step and he can kill their whole army...the titans were tiny though by comparison and did not have sentient intelligence since they were constructs. Atlas is alive and intelligent, he would just tread on them all.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Then dont go on youtube, I just wont be convinced my your claim.

Hades can step on them as well, Cronos could step on them all at once. invaded? how? one step and he can kill their whole army...the titans were tiny though by comparison and did not have sentient intelligence since they were constructs. Atlas is alive and intelligent, he would just tread on them all.

No, Hades couldn't easily step on them. They won't be filing in marching band type motion now will they ? Look at the trouble Cronos had with Kratos and we see foes invade gaia left and right. The Titans didn't solo any armies at all.

No, he wouldn't. Atlas gets invaded and beaten.

Because I should not have to put on my PS3, play a chapter just to see if you were telling the truth and if I did, what use is that to people in this thread who have not played the game?

Hes nearing Atlas' shin iirc when he is at his God size and Zeus could be even larger, the gods are far smaller however ot the Titans who are enormous. It does not matter, they will not start miles apart, theres no evidence to suggest they can even form tactics really since theres no a general among them unlike the Olympion armies. Nobody in Los has the strength Kratos has, yes and how much damage did those who invaded Gaia do? nothing....

Thats not even a real argument, more like a dispute. Go and find facts and proof to claim this is even possible.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Because I should not have to put on my PS3, play a chapter just to see if you were telling the truth and if I did, what use is that to people in this thread who have not played the game?

Hes nearing Atlas' shin iirc when he is at his God size and Zeus could be even larger, the gods are far smaller however ot the Titans who are enormous. It does not matter, they will not start miles apart, theres no evidence to suggest they can even form tactics really since theres no a general among them unlike the Olympion armies. Nobody in Los has the strength Kratos has, yes and how much damage did those who invaded Gaia do? nothing....

Thats not even a real argument, more like a dispute. Go and find facts and proof to claim this is even possible.

Doesn't matter as beings far smaller can hurt the titans and invade them and kill them from the inside. Uhm, why can't they form tactics when the Lycan Lord can tell them what to do as their leader. They already beat a massive army of Titans just with their own resources not including the other lords of shadow.

Gabriel has Kratoslike strength and far exceeding power. Kratos kills them so of course they don't do much damage they don't have the opportunity to.

I'm just saying what I believe would happen based on what happens to Gaia and the fact the lycans already defeated the titans in their own game despite a huge size advantage.

Well we you cannot confirm the belief that your "right".

Not really, your taking some context out because based on evidence only Kratos with his titan strength has ever done that, also based on evidence their important organs are shielded by onyx or w/e its called. Because the Lycan lord is not a general, whats he going to do? tell them to jump on him or something? Show me "massive army"

lol, no he does not, not even close.

Now their faced with not a huge size advantage but a ridiculous size advantage.

"Im right but I wont prove it" is a terrible stance which has wasted an hour of your time of telling someone else to find your proof when it could take you a minute to find the vid... was that wise?

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They physically strongest being in GoW are Cronos, Zeus and Hercules who all have around the same strength [save Atlas who is above] and Kratos can take hits from them and rival their strength. Strength of a skyscraper sized titan. What was the best strength of Gabrial again? Haven't seen anything over comic-peak.

Note LoS largest enemy [titans and dragon] are small and weak compared to any GoW Titan. Not even a bawss one like Atlas or Cronos, I mean the smaller and weaker Gaia and co.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Well we you cannot confirm the belief that your "right".

Not really, your taking some context out because based on evidence only Kratos with his titan strength has ever done that, also based on evidence their important organs are shielded by onyx or w/e its called. Because the Lycan lord is not a general, whats he going to do? tell them to jump on him or something? Show me "massive army"

lol, no he does not, not even close.

Now their faced with not a huge size advantage but a ridiculous size advantage.

Poseidon was hurting an doutright killed one just by jump into him so no Kratos isn't the only one capable of hurting the Titans just like Helios and Hades also showed they had the power to do so.

They state in the game the lycans overwhelm them and each lord of shadow has his servants carry out their leader's agenda. How can you miss this ? How ?

You never played the dlc so you don't know.

They can be mounted and injured.

Originally posted by BloodRain
"Im right but I wont prove it" is a terrible stance which has wasted an hour of your time of telling someone else to find your proof when it could take you a minute to find the vid... was that wise?

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They physically strongest being in GoW are Cronos, Zeus and Hercules who all have around the same strength [save Atlas who is above] and Kratos can take hits from them and rival their strength. Strength of a skyscraper sized titan. What was the best strength of Gabrial again? Haven't seen anything over comic-peak.

Note LoS largest enemy [titans and dragon] are small and weak compared to any GoW Titan. Not even a bawss one like Atlas or Cronos, I mean the smaller and weaker Gaia and co.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You played and have access to the game. I told you where to look and if you doubt my claim then look it up and prove me wrong.

Poseidon was hurting an doutright killed one just by jump into him so no Kratos isn't the only one capable of hurting the Titans just like Helios and Hades also showed they had the power to do so.

They state in the game the lycans overwhelm them and each lord of shadow has his servants carry out their leader's agenda. How can you miss this ? How ?

You never played the dlc so you don't know.

They can be mounted and injured.

I dont have to prove you wrong until you prove yourself right.

Who are all extremely powerful godly beings, Gabriel nor any werewolf can create force equel to Poseidon.

Theres an "agenda" and then theres complicated combat instructions on the fly, these wolves are not soldiers tbh.

Doesnt matter, until you prove it nobody will know.

By godly power, not some mangy humanoid dogs.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont have to prove you wrong until you prove yourself right.

Who are all extremely powerful godly beings, Gabriel nor any werewolf can create force equel to Poseidon.

Theres an "agenda" and then theres complicated combat instructions on the fly, these wolves are not soldiers tbh.

Doesnt matter, until you prove it nobody will know.

By godly power, not some mangy humanoid dogs.

Gabriel can easily create this level of force. Poseidon also was going at tremendous speed down the mount.

How is it complicated to attack a bigger enemy and kill it ? They did so against the titans already you make no sense.

Not my fault you're ignorant on the matter.

They can be injured by lesser foes it will take more of them granted but all out power by more powerful foes does this more effectively.

You dont need sound to watch a video or go on youtube. The fact you dont have sound does not change the fact that I and most posters on here probably do.

lmao, and yes Poseidon was, all of it is part of force and pressure.

Because this enemies foot could crush your whole army with a step.

You seem to be ignorant on both games and cannot even support yourself.

Never shown, the only foes damaging them were just as powerful if not more, the Titans had olympian soldiers on them but it makes no difference since there was no notable damage and they were usually crushed or swiped aside. Further, unlike the tiny titans the lycans beat before, the Titans in your matchup would have all the other GoW forces aiding them including those soldiers.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You dont need sound to watch a video or go on youtube. The fact you dont have sound does not change the fact that I and most posters on here probably do.

lmao, and yes Poseidon was, all of it is part of force and pressure.

Because this enemies foot could crush your whole army with a step.

You seem to be ignorant on both games and cannot even support yourself.

Never shown, the only foes damaging them were just as powerful if not more, the Titans had olympian soldiers on them but it makes no difference since there was no notable damage and they were usually crushed or swiped aside. Further, unlike the tiny titans the lycans beat before, the Titans in your matchup would have all the other GoW forces aiding them including those soldiers.

The armies won't be all in a row all nice and purrrty to be stepped on. Do you think this is civil war fighting where everyone is going to line up single file.

I already have done so.

They had the means and power to hurt them it doesn't mean they are as strong as the titans are. Case and point, Helios. Boom.

Yes, they would but the los enemies have the reapers, vampires who can heal themselves, lycans, trolls giant spiders, casket demons, crows, etc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit you know where to look. I told you where and when it happens have at it.

The armies won't be all in a row all nice and purrrty to be stepped on. Do you think this is civil war fighting where everyone is going to line up single file.

I already have done so.

They had the means and power to hurt them it doesn't mean they are as strong as the titans are. Case and point, Helios. Boom.

Yes, they would but the los enemies have the reapers, vampires who can heal themselves, lycans, trolls giant spiders, casket demons, crows, etc.

I know where, I just dont have to, since its your evidence to provide not mine.

They dont have to be 100-1000 meters apart either. I dont think you appreciate how big the GoW Titans are.

Helios iirc did not actually kill any Titans, just annoyed one. Helios is far more powerful though still.

Who can all be destroyed by 1 titan or God, let alone two entire panheons of such beings+smaller enemies almost as strong as the larger ones like Kratos, Hercules etc, then you can start mentioning the fodder that your mentioning, but to the GoW mid-low mid tiers most of Los are fodder.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I know where, I just dont have to, since its your evidence to provide not mine.

They dont have to be 100-1000 meters apart either. I dont think you appreciate how big the GoW Titans are.

Helios iirc did not actually kill any Titans, just annoyed one. Helios is far more powerful though still.

Who can all be destroyed by 1 titan or God, let alone two entire panheons of such beings+smaller enemies almost as strong as the larger ones like Kratos, Hercules etc, then you can start mentioning the fodder that your mentioning, but to the GoW mid-low mid tiers most of Los are fodder.

I do and the bigger they are the harder it will be to focus on all the enemies coming their way.

What did Helios do to show he's far more powerful ? He was hurting the Titan which is the point.

No way. There are plenty of notable los enemies who can more than make up for this. You have Pan, Gabriel, Laura, the three lords of shadow, satan, Gravedigger, the butcher, the ogre, the ice titan, the stone titan, and the dragolich titan, the mechanical monstrosities, and the Forgotten One along with scores of other enemies to make this very interesting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What does it prove anyways in your mind ? Does it prove Gabriel is immune to sword attacks since he no sold one of the Black Nights sword strikes knocking him back over 20 feet ?

I do and the bigger they are the harder it will be to focus on all the enemies coming their way.

What did Helios do to show he's far more powerful ? He was hurting the Titan which is the point.

No way. There are plenty of notable los enemies who can more than make up for this. You have Pan, Gabriel, Laura, the three lords of shadow, satan, Gravedigger, the butcher, the ogre, the ice titan, the stone titan, and the dragolich titan, the mechanical monstrosities, and the Forgotten One along with scores of other enemies to make this very interesting.

He has to take the actual blade to his body and not be harmed, also this would not make him immune to all sword attacks, only those wielded by beings as strong or weaker than the black knight.

When a single breath can blow hundreds away and a single step can crush hundreds it hardly matters. Also the lycans and other creatures have not proven to be in the numbers your imagining. They only live in specific areas and territories.

Arguable if he was hurting it, it was holding its hand up and helios could blow up sections of area with those explosive shots. All the titan was doing was taking the shots or blocking them with its hand anyway.

Your just listing bosses, theres no doubt more Titans, who are each capable of killing by themselves all those mentioned, also nearly as many Gods. Thats not even included the sisters of fate and the heroes of Olmypus like Hercules and Perseus.

Originally posted by Burning thought
He has to take the actual blade to his body and not be harmed, also this would not make him immune to all sword attacks, only those wielded by beings as strong or weaker than the black knight.

When a single breath can blow hundreds away and a single step can crush hundreds it hardly matters. Also the lycans and other creatures have not proven to be in the numbers your imagining. They only live in specific areas and territories.

Arguable if he was hurting it, it was holding its hand up and helios could blow up sections of area with those explosive shots. All the titan was doing was taking the shots or blocking them with its hand anyway.

Your just listing bosses, theres no doubt more Titans, who are each capable of killing by themselves all those mentioned, also nearly as many Gods. Thats not even included the sisters of fate and the heroes of Olmypus like Hercules and Perseus.

They had the numbers to drown out the other titans and still you fight many in the game so yes they can do so.

It was hurting the Titan is the point and Helios seemed like one of the weaker gods we get to see in action.

We aren't including everyone from previous games like I sai dit's 3 games to one which is completely unfair.