Originally posted by Nephthys
Your point about durasteel being common reminds me that Marek has also bent and broken it. I believe those chicken walkers he crushes into cubes are re-enforced with it and I know that the novel points out that when he is manipulating the Star Destroyer its actually buckling under his Force grip.
Obi-Wan and Mace have both destroyed Durasteel constructions with their bare hands. Yet while Mace might have done so using his shatterpoint ability, Obi-Wan must have done it utilizing force aided strength. And he's nothing compared to Dooku in terms of force mastery.
YouTube video5.40 onwards. That platform is definately heavier than those pillars.
Definitely? I don't think so. Not only are those platforms hollow (since that tanks pass through them) but we also don't have any idea what metal they are made off. And even then, one has to doubt that the lifting of the pillars was anywhere close to the upper limit of Dooku's abilities.
On top of that we have the feats ares brought to the table, shaking the entire jedi temple (all 1 kilometer by 500 meters of it, dunno how impressive that is) as well as apparently disintergrating someone. Both more impressive than Count 'chuck a pipe at Yoda' Dooku's feats. Even beyond that, matching Galen Marek in the Force is waaay more impressive than any of Dooku's feats. The man brought down a freakin' skyhook (something that reaches into orbit) with TK. [/B]
Galen, like any video game character, is pretty much overrated and it usually needs some elaboration of feats outside the game media to give us an accurate source to judge the abilities of a character. I don't see why Dooku should be inable to shake the temple or desintegrate somebody. And a Skyhook is usually held up in the atmosphere via repulsorlifts, that aren't too hard to overpower, as they just have to equal out the gravitational pull on the Skyhook.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Obi-Wan and Mace have both destroyed Durasteel constructions with their bare hands. Yet while Mace might have done so using his shatterpoint ability, Obi-Wan must have done it utilizing force aided strength. And he's nothing compared to Dooku in terms of force mastery.
I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about here. If you are referring to the fight with Grievous when he pulls his chest plates apart then he really does not 'destroy' anything. He yanks them apart, theres no evidence that he's harming the steel at all, especially when he strikes him earlier and acheives nothing but hurting himself.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Definitely? I don't think so. Not only are those platforms hollow (since that tanks pass through them)
Having holes around the edges does not mean that the platforms are totally hollow.
Originally posted by Borbarad
but we also don't have any idea what metal they are made off.
Firstly metals are almost universally heavier than rock. And secondly the exact same could be said about the pillars Dooku levitates.
Originally posted by Borbarad
And even then, one has to doubt that the lifting of the pillars was anywhere close to the upper limit of Dooku's abilities.
And again the same ould be said about Vader. More so in fact as he does it one handed after fighting Starkiller rather than Dooku doing it two-handed at fully-rested status.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Galen, like any video game character, is pretty much overrated and it usually needs some elaboration of feats outside the game media to give us an accurate source to judge the abilities of a character.
Such as the novel, which is what I'm doing. And the game being 'Unleashed' does not diminish its status as canon. Everything that does not contradict a higher form of canon is still accepted.
Originally posted by Borbarad
I don't see why Dooku should be inable to shake the temple or desintegrate somebody.
I do. Prove me wrong.
He's never demonstrated that level of power or mastery of TK.
Originally posted by Borbarad
And a Skyhook is usually held up in the atmosphere via repulsorlifts, that aren't too hard to overpower, as they just have to equal out the gravitational pull on the Skyhook.
Which I assume is why Marek destroys it from the ground by destroying its base by literally shattering the metal apart.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Random guy on VG forum is an excellent source. But I found this graffiti on a bathroom stall which contradicts your source.
Said random guy is a massive math nerd who frequently calculates weights over in the VG forum (for use in lifting feats). He's a trusted source.
Okay, but what exactly about his calculations are reliable? Does he demonstrate his methods? Does he have a degree in guesstimating fictional materials' weights? I mean, why should I as a casual forumer give a rats' ass about "Some guy in VG forum who does tons of weights"? I'm just looking for something more.
Jeez, its an estimate. I just casually asked if anyone could give me a ballpark figure and he said 'bout 8k tons if fully steel, 10m circle radius with a 3m height.' Like I said, I trust his estimate because he does this kind of thing near constantly in the other forum but I never claimed it as fact. Hell, I halved the above figure in my post.
But really, even if he's wildly off the platform is still heavier than those pillars.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Jeez, its an estimate. I just casually asked if anyone could give me a ballpark figure and he said 'bout 8k tons if fully steel, 10m circle radius with a 3m height.' Like I said, I trust his estimate because he does this kind of thing near constantly in the other forum but I never claimed it as fact. Hell, I halved the above figure in my post.But really, even if he's wildly off the platform is still heavier than those pillars.
R u good at calculation?