Come to think of it, wasn't it stolen from him while he was away trying to wake a comatose Eternity? I think this was during Infinity War. It was given to Quasar to use against the Magus.
If it was really a part of him, shouldn't he have at least had a feeling something was amiss with it?
Also during the Tyrant saga, didn't it self destruct or something while in Toady/Morg's hands and Galactus had to run for his life from the blast?
And galan is shown in later comics as galan having a certain sympathy for humanois having been one himself. And also seems to regrettably state that he does what he has to to simply survive.
You could say that during galan knowingly played everyone for years an it was only when a true threat like Abraxas arrived that galactus let it be known what his trump card was.
Originally posted by WodensonNo, the blast clearly hits him and in the second scan we don't see any shield break which has always been either stated or drawn. In the same arc we see Thor break one so the writer made it clear when a shield was used unlike your desperate grasping here.
Odin's blast didn't even touch Thanos the first time, and you see an curved barrier surrounding him.I know exactly what you THINK you're talking about, but you're wrong on the basic facts.
All I have to do is prove that the Eye of Odin is a liar.
Galactus, using his own power, would get massacred by the Celestials.
What facts am I incorrect about then, sport ?
No, that's like saying since Mephisto is a liar that he never tells the truth which is stupid. You need to prove the writer purposely deceived the reader or when it was specifically stated as being incorrect.
The un is a part of his power. I said Galactus with his own tech with prep would defeat the host unlike Odin who with years of prep failed unlike G who presses a button to win.
Originally posted by zopzopThe Celestials aren't Maelstrom and we've seen them allow their opponent an attack or two to analyze it. We've seen Exitar allow Thor to stumble around inside him before ending the nonsense after the blast. Galactus presses a button with prep and easily wins with his own tech unlike Odin.
In Wodenson's defense, Maelstrom did keep the UN out of Galactus' hands and Galactus couldn't do anything about it. I'm sure the Celestials could do something if push came to shove.
Originally posted by zopzopHe was weakened from hunger, but you're still right - getting physically knocked unconscious by the Thing was really just pathetic. I actually felt sorry for the guy when I first read that one.
🤨 Unless he was weakened from hunger and near death, that is absolutely pathetic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the blast clearly hits him and in the second scan we don't see any shield break which has always been either stated or drawn. In the same arc we see Thor break one so the writer made it clear when a shield was used unlike your desperate grasping here.
As far as I'm concerned, the matter of Thanos using a shield against Odin is settled. He did use a force-field, and it was clearly depicted in the artwork. I'm not going to try to convince you of something you're not going to budge on. You're a Thanos fanboy, and I understand that you'll never concede.
What facts am I incorrect about then, sport ?
If you can't figure that out, you're not doing your homework.
No, that's like saying since Mephisto is a liar that he never tells the truth which is stupid. You need to prove the writer purposely deceived the reader or when it was specifically stated as being incorrect.
The entire basis of the Eye's story started with the lie that the Asgardians are 2000 years old. When the story reached the Celestials (same story), the Eye was still lying, because he was using elements from his previous lie. He said that the Odinsword, which was created to battle the Celestials, was created using the Rhinegold.
The Eye showed visions of Odin hanging himself on Yggdrasil using the Rhinegold, then learning of the Celestials from Gaea.
There was no Rhinegold. In the story, the Rhinegold was actually a transmuted Mjolnir from 2000 years ago, from the previous Thor. None of this happened.
The incident involving the Celestials MAY have happened as the Eye depicted. Then again, the Eye is a known liar. You pull one thread and the entire sweater unravels.
The un is a part of his power.
You agree that Galactus without the Nullifier would get roasted by the Celestials, yes? That's all I'm interested in. I'm not interested in this fanboy fantasy that the Ultimate Nullifier is part of Galactus' regular power.
@Wodenson
Odin does make a statement about Thanos's "scientifically acquired might;" what exactly that means is unknown however as neither party clarified...
That could apply to him using his shielding or it could refer to his tech amping him somehow; the problem with the shield theory is that it has a track record of being depicted differently than the questionable scan seen in Warlock and the Infinity Watch #25...
The more like conclusion is that Thanos's tech was amping him as Odin makes another comment as pertains Thanos's power when he says his (Odins own) power is divine by nature...that statement is made considerably after your alledged "one and done" shielding belief Wodenson.
Ask yourself this, if Thanos only used shielding against Odins initial attack, why would Odin be talking about Thanos's tech 2 times later on in the fight?
As pertains the Ultimate Nullifier, it was stated on panel to be an aspect of Galactus; this is no "fanboy fantasy"...its canon...and its stated clearly on panel during the Abraxas arc.
Read em and weep!
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Originally posted by WodensonNo one else sees it either. I used an example from the same arc d from every other arc where he uses a shield. Him tanking a blast with no mention of a shield or nothing drawn as one cracking because you're an asgardian fanboy. You're also not clever enough to even make a convincing argument.
As far as I'm concerned, the matter of Thanos using a shield against Odin is settled. He did use a force-field, and it was clearly depicted in the artwork. I'm not going to try to convince you of something you're not going to budge on. You're a Thanos fanboy, and I understand that you'll never concede.If you can't figure that out, you're not doing your homework.
The entire basis of the Eye's story started with the lie that the Asgardians are 2000 years old. When the story reached the Celestials (same story), the Eye was still lying, because he was using elements from his previous lie. He said that the Odinsword, which was created to battle the Celestials, was created using the Rhinegold.
The Eye showed visions of Odin hanging himself on Yggdrasil using the Rhinegold, then learning of the Celestials from Gaea.
There was no Rhinegold. In the story, the Rhinegold was actually a transmuted Mjolnir from 2000 years ago, from the previous Thor. None of this happened.
The incident involving the Celestials MAY have happened as the Eye depicted. Then again, the Eye is a known liar. You pull one thread and the entire sweater unravels.
You agree that Galactus without the Nullifier would get roasted by the Celestials, yes? That's all I'm interested in. I'm not interested in this fanboy fantasy that the Ultimate Nullifier is part of Galactus' regular power.
An army of ants defeated Odin and asgard minus Thor. There's nothin gincorrect about that statement. The fact you can't even tell me shows me your bluffing and that you aren't evenfamiliar with the appearance. You initially asked about it and who thinks an arc with an army of ants is like anything else Odin has been through.
So again you have no proof the eye lied about this particular incident and your logic is since Mephisto is a known liar he has never told the truth kinda thing. There's nothing to any of your arguments.
It's stated on panel to be a part of his power. The Destroyer, all of asgard minus Thor, and the Uni Mind isn't a part of Odin's regular powerset either. I said with prep and Galactus' own resources he'd easily win unlike Odin. I used the same circumstances Odin had which he failed miserably. Odin on his own didn't even make Arishem notice him. If Galactus blasted a Celestial they'd feel it.
Originally posted by WodensonHis power is also scientifically based whereas Odin is moreso dive in nature. A comparison was made where they draw their power from. You not comprehending the scene and trying to twist it into something else speaks volumes.
You agree that Thanos tapping into his tech for his battle with Odin, yes?
Originally posted by 753When they're drawn by certain artists. Ron Lim and Jim Starlin draw his shields, but Angel Medina draws shields infrequently (if ever). In fact, I'd wager he never draws forcefields.
thanos didnt use any shield you are extrapolating non-existante meaning from the art. thanos force-fields have a clear visual energy siganture of their own. stop reaching.
It's the same difference between Mark Bagley drawing Doom's shields when he gets bumrushed by Sentry and Jim Cheung not drawing Doom's shields when he gets attacked by Magneto, Iron Man and Wonder Man:
You know they're there, because they have to be. But you don't see it really.
EDIT: Mark Bagley was a bad example, he didn't even draw Doom's shields ever.
Erik Larsen did though.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0You can't find an instance of Thanos' shield ever not being drawn and/or mentioned. Like I said in the same arc we see Thor break through one and it shatter. Reaching.
When they're drawn by certain artists. Ron Lim and Jim Starlin draw his shields, but Angel Medina draws shields infrequently (if ever). In fact, I'd wager he never draws forcefields.It's the same difference between Mark Bagley drawing Doom's shields when he gets bumrushed by Sentry and Jim Cheung not drawing Doom's shields when he gets attacked by Magneto, Iron Man and Wonder Man.
You know they're there, because they have to be. But you don't see it really.
Originally posted by 753
thanos didnt use any shield you are extrapolating non-existante meaning from the art. thanos force-fields have a clear visual energy siganture of their own. stop reaching.Galactus >Odin
it's clear as day
Pretty much. it takes quite a bit of reaching to project shields onto thanos seeing as such was never mentioned, and the supposed shields would be inconsistent with how thanos's shields are usually portrayed, AND even inconsistent with how his shields were portrayed in that very same arc.
