Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No one considers the Elder God retcon when writing a story anymore.
This. It's over. The Elder God angle was because Marvel had the Conan properties and was trying to integrate Set and crew into Marvel continuity. Now that they lost the rights, the party's over.
And back on topic : Odin is probably gonna do it in the up and coming Thor issue. Odin + Destroyer Armor in Asgard = Dead Galactus.
this has the heavy stench of "the thor movie performed well so let's make odin even more super ZOMG! awesome. let's make him galactus's sort of grandfather."
it doesn't really matter though; Galan & the eternity of the previous universe predate odin. that is, of course, until they retcon a story into continuity where galan was really a clone of odin who was displaced in the previous universe.
oh, & galactus stomps odin all day everyday. odin & asgard were defeated by space ants with ray guns. and gruel.
hmmmmmm........this does not bode well, i like the asgardians, but i feel like the wankage has gone on far enough, hopefully this seed is nothing more than a vessel of great power that will sate galactus' hunger..and nothing more, the backstory although clever would disrupt too much history and id be forced to drop the book
Originally posted by King Kandy
And yet it was completely powerless against the celestials?
This argument was always flawed. At the time, the Celestials were intended to be beyond other entities, including Cosmics like Galactus. He'd have done no better than the Destroyer. Would have done worse unless he recently fed I'd wager. It should be noted, that this was at a point in time where Thomas was actively trying to tone down the Asgardians so they could better fit with the rest of the Marvel Universe. The shit he pulled was stupid and unnecessary.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
hmmmmmm........this does not bode well, i like the asgardians, but i feel like the wankage has gone on far enough, hopefully this seed is nothing more than a vessel of great power that will sate galactus' hunger..and nothing more, the backstory although clever would disrupt too much history and id be forced to drop the book
you mean mork & mindy aren't going to leap out of the new seed/egg?
Originally posted by wildernesss
this has the heavy stench of "the thor movie performed well so let's make odin even more super ZOMG! awesome. let's make him galactus's [B]sort of grandfather."it doesn't really matter though; Galan & the eternity of the previous universe predate odin. that is, of course, until they retcon a story into continuity where galan was really a clone of odin who was displaced in the previous universe.
oh, & galactus stomps odin all day everyday. odin & asgard were defeated by space ants with ray guns. and gruel. [/B]
Originally posted by Sin I AM
hmmmmmm........this does not bode well, i like the asgardians, but i feel like the wankage has gone on far enough, hopefully this seed is nothing more than a vessel of great power that will sate galactus' hunger..and nothing more, the backstory although clever would disrupt too much history and id be forced to drop the book
This isn't new. Rage had scans he posted long before this saying that Bor planted the seed that became the world tree. Bor is basically the creator God of 616 reality.
My prediction on the upcoming throw down : Surfer wins because of Thor's injury but Thor puts up a hell of a fight. Galactus LOSES vs Odin but the collateral damage is huge and Surfer gets his hands on the Seed and restores everything. Wait and see.
Originally posted by Galan007
"At the time"? Personally, I can't remember an instance where Celestials weren't portrayed beyond most other cosmic entities..?
They've always been extremely powerful but in the 80's/Early 90's they were at their peak. Imho, it wouldn't have been smart money to bet on Galactus against a Celestial at the time.
Currently, I think the gap is smaller if there is one at all. They aren't as high up the food chain as they once were imo. At least, they aren't as respected/feared.
Any Celestial fans out there should be thanking the Asgardians. Thomas basically used them as a benchmark to show how awesome Kirby's creations were....by shitting on Kirby's other love child.
Originally posted by zopzopThey were busy helping contain the Galactus Engine. Doubt they knew Marv was the linchpin to the entire Cancerverse... Otherwise he [Marv] likely would have had some bigger guns than Surfer/Thanos to contend with.
What about the Thanos Imperative? They didn't do jack there and it took Death to save 616 reality.
Originally posted by Galan007
They were busy helping contain the Galactus Engine. Doubt they knew Marv was the linchpin to the entire Cancerverse... Otherwise he [Marv] likely would have had some bigger guns than Surfer/Thanos to contend with.
That's the thing though, they weren't shown just before it all ended. Only Galactus was left fending off the Engine. The Surfer even mentioned it on panel. Did they run? Have their M-bodies destroyed like Aegis? Or did they just give up and call it a day? Where were they?
Originally posted by zopzop
You'd be wrong then. The movie only did modestly compared to titans such as the Spider-man or Batman franchises.
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=thor.htm
When you add up the production budget + marketing budget and subtract that from it's gross (keeping in mind the reduced income for the studio because of the way overseas markets work) they just barely made any kind of money on this movie.
it was a critical & financial success. but that aside, thor has multiple titles, minis, & is featured in avengers. silver surfer isn't in more than a mini series & the annhilators mini. to think that thor & odin aren't going to get a shiatsu massage chair & some pedestal feats service isn't far fetched imho.
Originally posted by zopzop
@wildernesssDid you even click the link I provided?
yup, but that doesn't mean it didn't perform well. it may not have been uber profitable, but it did do moderately well & was well received by critics. maybe i have a lower standard for success than you. anyway, dvd sales will be epic.
Originally posted by zopzopThis isn't new. Rage had scans he posted long before this saying that Bor planted the seed that became the world tree. Bor is basically the creator God of 616 reality.
My prediction on the upcoming throw down : Surfer wins because of Thor's injury but Thor puts up a hell of a fight. Galactus LOSES vs Odin but the collateral damage is huge and Surfer gets his hands on the Seed and restores everything. Wait and see.
i concur with your prediction, it seems very plausible, although i foresee a plot device allowing a win. I also forsee the ragnarok cycle reinstated. But bor being the all-father is kinda lame to me, given the previously established heirarchy...it would make them more powerful than depicted