Odin VS Galactus

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi67 pages

Originally posted by zopzop
It wasn't a shield, Thanos just tanked Odin's initial blast.

Here he's stunned when Odin lets loose with both hands :

Just as I stated earlier... again.. we see energy dispering in what could be seen from a circle type figure... yet.. it's claimed that his "shields" and I use that term very loosely were already broken by this point. Yet again, there is that circle type energy being dispered around Thanos. When you throw an egg at a wall.. guess what happens.. it forms a circular pattern upon impact.. does that mean the wall had a shield.. WTF. No it means that is how it despered upon meeting a object it couldn't break through. The energy hit Thanos.. it's not going to pass through hm... instead it just gets dispered in a circle type pattern much like the example I stated. Again look at the spear blast.. same circle type radius around Thanos when he's blasted.

God...who gives a shit.

Galactus > Odin.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Just as I stated earlier... again.. we see energy dispering in what could be seen from a circle type figure... yet.. it's claimed that his "shields" and I use that term very loosely were already broken by this point. Yet again, there is that circle type energy being dispered around Thanos. When you throw an egg at a wall.. guess what happens.. it forms a circular pattern upon impact.. does that mean the wall had a shield.. WTF. No it means that is how it despered upon meeting a object it couldn't break through. The energy hit Thanos.. it's not going to pass through hm... instead it just gets dispered in a circle type pattern much like the example I stated. Again look at the spear blast.. same circle type radius around Thanos when he's blasted.
Yeah, it's not rocket science that there's clearly a splashing elliptical silhouette that extends beyond Thanos' body. A common depiction used by artists to show shielding. You don't see that silhouette with the second blast, now do you?

The shields are busted when Odin starts pouring it on. Same as when PG Thor busted Thanos' shields from the get-go and poured on the hurt.

@KuRuPT Thanosi
Exactly.

The whole "Thanos used a shield" argument makes ZERO sense. Look at the scans I provided. Thanos/Surfer didn't budge Odin with the initial attack, then Thanos BY HIMSELF stuns Odin. Was Odin using shields and Thanos second attack busted through them? No of course not, so why use that line of reasoning with Thanos?

Originally posted by Mindset
God...who gives a shit.

Galactus > Odin.

Go back to watchin' pr0n! 😛

Originally posted by zopzop
@KuRuPT Thanosi
Exactly.

The whole "Thanos used a shield" argument makes ZERO sense. Look at the scans I provided. Thanos/Surfer didn't budge Odin with the initial attack, then Thanos BY HIMSELF stuns Odin. Was Odin using shields and Thanos second attack busted through them? No of course not, so why use that line of reasoning with Thanos?

Because no splashing elliptical silhouette that extends beyond Odin's body is present when Odin gets hit and I've never once seen him use forcefields (whereas we know Thanos has used em)...

... do you have a scan of Odin using forcefields anyway?

Lulz at this making ZERO sense. It's right there. Blind yourself to the truth however you like.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Because no splashing elliptical silhouette that extends beyond Odin's body is present when Odin gets hit and I've never once seen him use forcefields (whereas we know Thanos has used em)...

... do you have a scan of Odin using forcefields anyway?

Lulz at this making ZERO sense. It's right there. Blind yourself to the truth however you like.

Here we go again :

ON PANEL -

Thanos/Surfer's initial assault doesn't even cause Odin to flinch.

Thanos secondary assault SOLO stuns Odin.

Was Odin using shields and Thanos broke through them?!

I'm still waiting on that scan of Thanos using a clear shield at it never being mentioned. The fact is, and what you can't get around, is this is EXACTLY what happens when energy meets an object it can't go through.. it's dispered in a circular pattern around the object. You throw an egg at a wall.. what happens.. it forms a circular pattern on the wall.. does the wall have shields now? No.. that is just what happens.. Even in this fight we see CONTINUED examples of BLASTS forming CIRCULAR patterns of energy after they make contact AFTER it's claimed the shields have already been broken... This is getting silly. As stated, no shields drawn or even implied or hinted at. Nothing. Mods ruled. Case over

that art is shit. nothing conclusive can be drawn from it.

doesnt really matter one bit to what is being discussed here though G did better agaisnt thanos than Odin did

^ I suppose Magneto barehands Doom's blasts now. 😂

Quick some Magneto fanboy needs post that natural durability feat in his respect thread!

Originally posted by zopzop
Here we go again :

ON PANEL -

Thanos/Surfer's initial assault doesn't even cause Odin to flinch.

Thanos secondary assault SOLO stuns Odin.

Was Odin using shields and Thanos broke through them?!

What does Odin's non-use of shielding have to do with the clear splashing elliptical silhouette that extends beyond Thanos body, where none is present for Odin? Odin's never used forcefields to my knowledge anyway.

Hmmm.... Which brings me back to my original reason for asking. If he didn't use his shields, then that shows how much superior Galactus is to Odin, as Odin was fighting Thanos without shields, and still took most of a comic - Only to have Thanos continue to defy him.

If he was using his shield, it still took Odin longer to bust through, and he still had to resort to whipping out a weapon. Either way, Galactus is obviously the superior of the two here.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm still waiting on that scan of Thanos using a clear shield at it never being mentioned. The fact is, and what you can't get around, is this is EXACTLY what happens when energy meets an object it can't go through.. it's dispered in a circular pattern around the object. You throw an egg at a wall.. what happens.. it forms a circular pattern on the wall.. does the wall have shields now? No.. that is just what happens.. Even in this fight we see CONTINUED examples of BLASTS forming CIRCULAR patterns of energy after they make contact AFTER it's claimed the shields have already been broken... This is getting silly. As stated, no shields drawn or even implied or hinted at. Nothing. Mods ruled. Case over
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I suppose Magneto barehands Doom's blasts now. 😂 What does Odin's non-use of shielding have to do with the clear splashing elliptical silhouette that extends beyond Thanos body, where none is present for Odin? Odin's never used forcefields to my knowledge anyway.

The art, like another poster said, was trash. You have to explain why the same deal (shrugging off the initial assault but being staggered by the follow up) happened to BOTH Thanos and Odin, if only one of them was using "shields".

Wouldn't the more logical explanation be, that they were feeling each other out with their initial assaults and that's why the followups were more effective?

Originally posted by zopzop
People it's not freaking rocket science. Thanos just tanked Odin's opening salvo. That's it.

That's what happened with Thanos. He tanked Odin's initial opening shot but then was stunned by Odin's letting loose with both hands :

That's the exact impression I got as well.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I suppose Magneto barehands Doom's blasts now. 😂

Quick some Magneto fanboy needs post that natural durability feat in his respect thread! What does Odin's non-use of shielding have to do with the clear splashing elliptical silhouette that extends beyond Thanos body, where none is present for Odin? Odin's never used forcefields to my knowledge anyway.

this is falalcious ODG, the artistic representation of the magneto instance is much more clear than the thanos one and you know it. one can gladly accept that an energy signature needs not be shown for the presence of a shield to be safely deduced and still consider that particular art ambiguous. to me it looks like the blast hits thanos and just splashes arround him. I dont see enough to conclude there is a shield, just a poorly drawn splash

Originally posted by ctnn1
Hmmm.... Which brings me back to my original reason for asking. If he didn't use his shields, then that shows how much superior Galactus is to Odin, as Odin was fighting Thanos without shields, and still took most of a comic - Only to have Thanos continue to defy him.

If he was using his shield, it still took Odin longer to bust through, and he still had to resort to whipping out a weapon. Either way, Galactus is obviously the superior of the two here.

You'd have a point except :

a) Thanos never knocked Odin reeling and smoldering across the surface of a planet.

b) Galactus exhausted himself pulling that stunt vs Thanos (busting through his shields). According to some posters here, Thanos was shielded and Odin's second blast broke through and Odin didn't need "replenishment" after.

This shield issue is ridiculous...

For the moment lets give you guys that portion of the argument; lets assume that Thanos did use shielding against Odin...

Thanos's shields do NOT regenerate once they are broken; according top Wodenson, Odin broke Thanos's shield with his initial attack...

So how in the HELL does this fact support Odins power level if his weakest attack broke Thanos's shielding, but Thanos tanked or negated every single attack (and they were increasing in intensity as pertains the level of damage broght to the table) thereafter!??

Every other attack by Odin CLEARLY got to Thanos and was unhindered by shielding...and that includes the attacks made with Gungnir...heck, Odins second attack against Thanos (the two handed hand blast) appeared to contain more power than the blast used against Thanos's shielding, and all if did was push Thanos off balance slightly...

IMHO, Odin looks even weaker than he already did if we are to assume that Thanos used shielding in this fight...

As pertains Galactus and his feeding, that line's importance is exaggerated; we use "vital energies" in any and every action we made...we all have deleted a portion of our "vital energies" here in this thread for example.

In addition, I believe that that line (made during a arc that focused on Thanos) featured some Thanos wanking; Galactus has utilized more devastating attacks than that and didnt have to feed immediated afterwards...

So why the hell was that attack so draining; it clearly wasnt a Galaxy buster or even a Solar System buster for that matter...

^ Thanos tanked PG Thor's blows after his shields crumbled. Even when the PG was amping him more and more. Thanos was not taking all of Odin's subsequent attacks as well as he did the first one. Probably due to the fact that the shields were intact then and not anymore. Same as PG Thor fight.

Think about it for a second. You're chasing your own tail.

Originally posted by ctnn1
Hmmm.... Which brings me back to my original reason for asking. If he didn't use his shields, then that shows how much superior Galactus is to Odin, as Odin was fighting Thanos without shields, and still took most of a comic - Only to have Thanos continue to defy him.

If he was using his shield, it still took Odin longer to bust through, and he still had to resort to whipping out a weapon. Either way, Galactus is obviously the superior of the two here.

Your argument trying to prove Galactus > Odin has nothing to do with the art clearly depicting a splashing elliptical silhouette that is evidence of shielding.

Neither is Thanos fanboys wishing that Thanos somehow handicapped himself in a fight where he was getting tossed around like a drunk slut to excuse that he was, in fact, getting tossed around thusly.

Obviously, people are trying to ignore the art to justify their preconceived notions. Let's dispense with the cart leading the horse here. It's unsightly. Do artists draw splashing elliptical silhouettes to portray shielding? Yes. Even when other artists cleanly portray shielding with a globe, or wavy lines, etc.? Yes. Is that what Angel Medina did here? Sure. Is there any controversial issue with Thanos having used shields that makes it out of character for him? No.

What's the problem?

My 2 cents...

Here Odin uses a single-handed blast on Thanos. Not only does the blast have no effect, but it also seems to dissipate/begin spreading outward, before it ever touches Thanos' physical being:

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Fast-forward a couple pages, and this time a single energy-backhand from Odin sends Thanos flying backward:

With that being said, it seems like Thanos' shields were up initially (the artwork heavily alludes to such)- then Odin simply broke through them. How else do you explain the massive difference in Thanos' energy-soak over the span of 2 pages?

Originally posted by Galan007
My 2 cents...

Here Odin uses a single-handed blast on Thanos. Not only does the blast have no effect, but it also seems to dissipate/begin spreading outward, before it ever touches Thanos' physical being:

So from an artistic standpoint, it appears to be heavily implied that Thanos' shields were up in that scene.

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Fast-forward a couple pages, and this time a single energy-backhand from Odin sends Thanos flying backward:

Imo it seems like Thanos' shields were up initially- then Odin simply broke through them.

No offense, but no way. How did Thanos do this then? If his "shields" were down and a simple backhand threw him off balance?

^ Thanos fought harder. And he was clearly struggling mightily. You must understand, your question makes no sense. Assuming he never had shields, your same disbelief equally applies.

Originally posted by Galan007
My 2 cents...

Here Odin uses a single-handed blast on Thanos. Not only does the blast have no effect, but it also seems to dissipate/begin spreading outward, before it ever touches Thanos' physical being:

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Fast-forward a couple pages, and this time a single energy-backhand from Odin sends Thanos flying backward:

With that being said, it seems like Thanos' shields were up initially (the artwork heavily alludes to such)- then Odin simply broke through them. How else do you explain the massive difference in Thanos' energy-soak over the span of 2 pages?

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