Odin VS Galactus

Originally posted by zopzop
Probably.

According to that scan :
Least to most powerful -
"Normal" Gods (Volstagg, etc...)
"Special" Gods (Thor, Herc, Loki)
Skyfather, Skyfather level beings (Surtur, Mangog), Full Cube Being, Ego, Galactus
"Normal" Celestials (Arshiem, etc..)
"Special" Celestials (Tiamut, Exitar, etc...)
Abstracts
The LT
TOAA

it says nothing about galactus and odin being equal...all i read was that thor doesnt think odin could beat a well feed galactus and that thor defeat a hungry and weak galactus with odins powers

Lmao at the last few pages.

I admit, as a Thor fan, I'm pretty stoked to see Thor and Odin and Asgard look good, but I can see how Surfer/Big G fans would be disappointed. Calling it PIS is nonsensical though, especially as the arc itself hasn't resolved and it's one writer's take on how they stack up against one another. Considering that Lee/Kirby portrayed Galactus and Odin as peers and Fraction said early on his take on Thor would hearken back to those days, it's really nothing to freak about.

Especially when certain people shouting PIS know they wouldn't pull that shit if we replaced Thor and/or Odin with someone with a s shield on their chest.

Besides, it's not like the first time Thor did something crazy like punk Galactus/Surfer.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lmao at the last few pages.

I admit, as a Thor fan, I'm pretty stoked to see Thor and Odin and Asgard look good, but I can see how Surfer/Big G fans would be disappointed. Calling it PIS is nonsensical though, especially as the arc itself hasn't resolved and it's one writer's take on how they stack up against one another. Considering that Lee/Kirby portrayed Galactus and Odin as peers and Fraction said early on his take on Thor would hearken back to those days, it's really nothing to freak about.

Especially when certain people shouting PIS know they wouldn't pull that shit if we replaced Thor and/or Odin with someone with a s shield on their chest.

Besides, it's not like the first time Thor did something crazy like punk Galactus/Surfer.

Correct.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lmao at the last few pages.

I admit, as a Thor fan, I'm pretty stoked to see Thor and Odin and Asgard look good, but I can see how Surfer/Big G fans would be disappointed. Calling it PIS is nonsensical though, especially as the arc itself hasn't resolved and it's one writer's take on how they stack up against one another. Considering that Lee/Kirby portrayed Galactus and Odin as peers and Fraction said early on his take on Thor would hearken back to those days, it's really nothing to freak about.

Especially when certain people shouting PIS know they wouldn't pull that shit if we replaced Thor and/or Odin with someone with a s shield on their chest.

Besides, it's not like the first time Thor did something crazy like punk Galactus/Surfer.

yep. for years i've been saying if they fought it would be a great fight. if anything was 'unjust' it was the way the skyfathers were depicted against the celestials. THAT is what started all this 'skyfathers are leagues below cosmics' nonsense. prior to that event, odin was an absolute beast and his power WAS up there. so, why was the celestial scene so readily accepted, but this showing..... less than accepted?

personally, i think it's great. odin will still likely lose in the end, but he will have made g work for it. no way, based on things they've done, it should have gone any other way.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Anyway, the way this fight is being portrayed, either the writers at Marvel have a far different opinion of how the character hierarchy looks, or they just dont give a dam and allow it to fluctuate at will all in the name of writing a compelling strory...

👆 That's what it seems like.

Originally posted by zopzop
Probably.

According to that scan :
Least to most powerful -
"Normal" Gods (Volstagg, etc...)
"Special" Gods (Thor, Herc, Loki)
Skyfather, Skyfather level beings (Surtur, Mangog), Full Cube Being, Ego, Galactus
"Normal" Celestials (Arshiem, etc..)
"Special" Celestials (Tiamut, Exitar, etc...)
Abstracts
The LT
TOAA

According to that scan: Galactus should be replaced with the Destroyer (full potential) on Skyfather level. Galactus (well fed) belongs under the abstracts.

Like Thor said, how could Big G employ something capable of defeating him? Thor also said that Odin dare engage it in direct combat. And that was when Loki was in control.

Originally posted by zopzop
It seems like the only one who called this right, so far, was Rage. He said that Galactus was not leagues above Odin. He also said that if Galactus did wind up winning it would be a close fight. He also predicted Thor beating Surfer.

I thought Odin was gonna curb stomp Galactus and that Surfer would beat Thor.

One writers view.. things change from time to time... Sometimes Hulk is shown to be more powerful than Thor and sometimes vice versa. Superman vs. Marvel... It's just one persons take on a fight.. nothing cemented in stone for all time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't view anything as pis.

Not even Spiderman vs. Firelord?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't view anything as pis.

This is why I see you as a good debator. Accept what happen and move on along with making an argument about what happened. To many people can't say this since they are addicted to claiming everything minus high showings as PIS. Doesn't show great debating skills if you ask me.

Your my idol carver...

Originally posted by carver9
This is why I see you as a good debator. Accept what happen and move on along with making an argument about what happened. To many people can't say this since they are addicted to claiming everything minus high showings as PIS. Doesn't show great debating skills if you ask me.

Contradictions can't exist in logical debates. Thus we must disregard the most illogical elements to have a rational discussion.

Whether Quan calls those elements "PIS" or "bad writing" he still dismisses them.
Don't give him credit for just using a different name for it. That doesn't make him a good debator but rather a masterbator (masturbator). 😆

Originally posted by leonidas
yep. for years i've been saying if they fought it would be a great fight. if anything was 'unjust' it was the way the skyfathers were depicted against the celestials. THAT is what started all this 'skyfathers are leagues below cosmics' nonsense. prior to that event, odin was an absolute beast and his power WAS up there. so, why was the celestial scene so readily accepted, but this showing..... less than accepted?

personally, i think it's great. odin will still likely lose in the end, but he will have made g work for it. no way, based on things they've done, it should have gone any other way.

👆

Originally posted by h1a8
Not even Spiderman vs. Firelord?

Originally posted by h1a8
Contradictions can't exist in logical debates. Thus we must disregard the most illogical elements to have a rational discussion.

Whether Quan calls those elements "PIS" or "bad writing" he still dismisses them.
Don't give him credit for just using a different name for it. That doesn't make him a good debator but rather a masterbator (masturbator). 😆

Originally posted by leonidas
yep. for years i've been saying if they fought it would be a great fight. if anything was 'unjust' it was the way the skyfathers were depicted against the celestials. THAT is what started all this 'skyfathers are leagues below cosmics' nonsense. prior to that event, odin was an absolute beast and his power WAS up there. so, why was the celestial scene so readily accepted, but this showing..... less than accepted?

personally, i think it's great. odin will still likely lose in the end, but he will have made g work for it. no way, based on things they've done, it should have gone any other way.

I disagree -- I thought the depiction of the skyfathers vs the celestials was outstanding. Really, what kind of sense does it make if one little planet and the area immediately surrounding it (the nine realms, the realm of the great beasts, etc.) has literally dozens, perhaps even hundreds of beings powerful enough to destroy galaxies, or challenge someone like Galactus? It makes the Marvel Universe seem smaller.

When exactly was it said Galactus was Well-Fed?

Originally posted by Simbon
I disagree -- I thought the depiction of the skyfathers vs the celestials was outstanding. Really, what kind of sense does it make if one little planet and the area immediately surrounding it (the nine realms, the realm of the great beasts, etc.) has literally dozens, perhaps even hundreds of beings powerful enough to destroy galaxies, or challenge someone like Galactus? It makes the Marvel Universe seem smaller.

meh, we'll agree to disagree. marvel earth has been depicted as special in any number of ways and it has already chased off galactus on multiple occasions. having all these gods around (of varying power--not all are on odin's level) with enormous power is no more convenient than, say, having the sorcerer supreme live on earth or any of a number of 'earth 616-based coincedences'. and there was talk (and still is) about the asgardians playing a role in the creation of the universe. we'll see what role the tree played. i think the universe is plenty big enough to accomodate these beings and plenty more.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
When exactly was it said Galactus was Well-Fed?

When exactly was it said Galactus was hungry or hadn't eaten in a while? See, both sides can play this game.

Face it, Odin is Galactus' peer in terms of power. The writer even made it clear by stating that just as the rest of the Asgardians are mere pawns, meant to distract Galactus; so to are the "cosmic demons" that Galactus summoned to distract Odin. Why would Galactus bother summoning pawns to distract an opponent he felt was beneath him.

Imagine if Odin really felt annoyed and jumped into the Destroyer Armor and faced off vs Galactus? Big G would be dead in mere minutes.

Originally posted by Simbon
I disagree -- I thought the depiction of the skyfathers vs the celestials was outstanding. Really, what kind of sense does it make if one little planet and the area immediately surrounding it (the nine realms, the realm of the great beasts, etc.) has literally dozens, perhaps even hundreds of beings powerful enough to destroy galaxies, or challenge someone like Galactus? It makes the Marvel Universe seem smaller.

See this? :

I save that scan to point out there was a time when the Marvel Celestial Hierarchy made sense. That time is long since passed now and we got to go by what's shown on panel.

Originally posted by zopzop
Face it, Odin is Galactus' peer in terms of power. The writer even made it clear by stating that just as the rest of the Asgardians are mere pawns, meant to distract Galactus; so to are the "cosmic demons" that Galactus summoned to distract Odin. Why would Galactus bother summoning pawns to distract an opponent he felt was beneath him.

Originally posted by zopzop
Imagine if Odin really felt annoyed and jumped into the Destroyer Armor and faced off vs Galactus? Big G would be dead in mere minutes.

The depths of stupidity this thread is reaching is unfathomable.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
sam sam sam

The depths of stupidity this thread is reaching is unfathomable.

WB troll! Care to explain where I'm wrong? Because going by on panel evidence, Odin = Galactus ( and this is Odin without the Destroyer Armor).