Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Just for shit and giggles, to show how much the gods sucks when compared to Galactus:
A couple of things :
a) Thanos' might is lilliputian when compared to Odin's too
b) The Soul Gem has failed vs Thor, so it will fail vs Odin
c) Thor was wondering out loud if Odin could beat Galactus at full power, or the Destroyer destroy him. Nothing was proven. It's just Thor's musings.
d) Having a high "station" in the universe doesn't mean anything relative to your power. Galactus couldn't beat Mephisto in his own realm without resorting to devouring it, yet Thor/Mephisto were stuck in a perpetual draw fighting it out fair and square.
Originally posted by zopzopand there are the facts that he lies through his teeth all the time, puts on shows for lesser beings and has always wanted to take thor's soul through corruptiona dn not just kill him and be done with it; and then there is time he desintegrated mjolnir in his realm, as he is omnipotent within it, and the time he warped the universe to erase spider-man's marriage from history, and the time he showed doom that the laws of physics dont apply to him in his realm. but sure, thor can beat him in his realm on his own.
@753Dude Thor did better vs Mephisto, in Mephisto's own realm, than Galactus did. It's a fact. Mephisto even said no side would win and it would be a perpetual stalemate.
@753
I don't feel like finding the issue and reuploading the scans. Mephisto COULD NOT BEAT Thor in Mephisto's own realm. The fight took place in Thor 310. It was going to be an eternal stalemate until both agreed to back off.
How do we know that the Mjolnir incident wasn't an illusion? You yourself said he lies.
Originally posted by zopzopit's possible, but there is more evidence backing the fact that laws of physics dont apply to his realm than to him not being able to beat a herald in it
@753I don't feel like finding the issue and reuploading the scans. Mephisto COULD NOT BEAT Thor in Mephisto's own realm. The fight took place in Thor 310. It was going to be an eternal stalemate until both agreed to back off.
How do we know that the Mjolnir incident wasn't an illusion? You yourself said he lies.
Originally posted by zopzop
A couple of things :a) Thanos' might is lilliputian when compared to Odin's too
b) The Soul Gem has failed vs Thor, so it will fail vs Odin
c) Thor was wondering out loud if Odin could beat Galactus at full power, or the Destroyer destroy him. Nothing was proven. It's just Thor's musings.
d) Having a high "station" in the universe doesn't mean anything relative to your power. Galactus couldn't beat Mephisto in his own realm without resorting to devouring it, yet Thor/Mephisto were stuck in a perpetual draw fighting it out fair and square.
a) Bullshit. Odin going for the kill wasn't even KO'ed Thanos. He puts him on his ass, and win, but if you want, I can put a scan of what a Thanos / Galactus fight looks like.
Spoiler: It's not pretty.
b) Are you talking about the fight where Thor was empowered with the Power Gem?
c) ok
d) Mephisto was invincible in his realm, so Galactus was going to absorb THE ENTIRE REALM. So not only Galactus would have won against Mephisto, but he would have completly destroyed Hell. And it should be added that Galactus should be able to do the same with Asgard.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
a) Bullshit. Odin going for the kill wasn't even KO'ed Thanos. He puts him on his ass, and win, but if you want, I can put a scan of what a Thanos / Galactus fight looks like.
Spoiler: It's not pretty.b) Are you talking about the fight where Thor was empowered with the Power Gem?
c) ok
d) Mephisto was invincible in his realm, so Galactus was going to absorb THE ENTIRE REALM. So not only Galactus would have won against Mephisto, but he would have completly destroyed Hell. And it should be added that Galactus should be able to do the same with Asgard.
a) Don't bother, I saw that fight. Thanos knocked Galactus off his feet and clear across the surface of that planet/moon/ship and knocked his helmet off. After Galactus composed himself and had Thanos on his knees, he needed to replenish himself because of the amount of energy he expended in getting through Thanos' shields.
In contrast, Thanos couldn't even budge Odin. When Odin was fighting Thanos he was going all out like Galactus was. He wasn't drawing on his other reservoirs of power like he did vs Surtur. He was wearing Thanos down..........slowly and Odin didn't need "replenishment" after.
b) Yes it was during the BLood and Thunder arc, but no, Thor didn't have the Power Gem yet. The Soul Gem just straight up failed vs Thor. And if it failed vs Thor, it will fail vs Odin.
c)...
d) Thor STALEMATED "all powerful" Mephisto, in Mephisto's realm! Odin would crush Mephisto anywhere.
ss also overpowered mephisto in his realm. another time ss was shown to be quite below mephisto in hell. mephisto is simply a bizarre character with high and low showings in hell. ss has also dealt with and defeated the soul gem. with it, adam warlock pwnd mephisto in hell. again, he's got good and bad showings. i'd say g having to resort devouring hell to beat him is NOT the best thing to bring up when talking about galactus's power. 😬
Originally posted by zopzop
a) Don't bother, I saw that fight. Thanos knocked Galactus off his feet and clear across the surface of that planet/moon/ship and knocked his helmet off. After Galactus composed himself and had Thanos on his knees, he needed to replenish himself because of the amount of energy he expended in getting through Thanos' shields.In contrast, Thanos couldn't even budge Odin. When Odin was fighting Thanos he was going all out like Galactus was. He wasn't drawing on his other reservoirs of power like he did vs Surtur. He was wearing Thanos down..........slowly and Odin didn't need "replenishment" after.
b) Yes it was during the BLood and Thunder arc, but no, Thor didn't have the Power Gem yet. The Soul Gem just straight up failed vs Thor. And if it failed vs Thor, it will fail vs Odin.
c)...
d) Thor STALEMATED "all powerful" Mephisto, in Mephisto's realm! Odin would crush Mephisto anywhere.
a) Lol. Galactus was weak, because he was affected by the Hunger. He pwned Thanos in a second, and had him almost begging for mercy, in his worst lost in career. As for Odin, Thanos wasn't even going for the kill (he wasn't against Galactus too, because he was aware that he didn't stand a chance), he wanted to catch Odin's attention because Thor had to be cured, and only Odin was able to do it. Odin use Gungir, but wasn't able to score a solid victory. Which is, to say the least, what Galactus did.
b) Pretty sure he had the gem.
c) ...
d) So what? **** Mephisto, Galactus was about to own Hell!
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
a) Lol. Galactus was weak, because he was affected by the Hunger. He pwned Thanos in a second, and had him almost begging for mercy, in his worst lost in career. As for Odin, Thanos wasn't even going for the kill (he wasn't against Galactus too, because he was aware that he didn't stand a chance), he wanted to catch Odin's attention because Thor had to be cured, and only Odin was able to do it. Odin use Gungir, but wasn't able to score a solid victory. Which is, to say the least, what Galactus did.b) Pretty sure he had the gem.
c) ...
d) So what? **** Mephisto, Galactus was about to own Hell!
a) Thanos went to Galactus with the intention to talk but Galactus ignored him. Thanos wasn't looking for a fight. Thanos knocked Galactus off his feet and sent him flying clear across the planet/moon/ship. Thanos couldn't even budge Odin.
b) Nope, he didn't. Adam even commented on how an Asgardian soul isn't like a mortal soul and is fortified against the Soul Gem's attack.
c)...
d) Yes he was about to own "hell" but that's only because Mephisto fought him to a stalemate. Same as what Thor did. Fought Mephisto to a stalemate. Odin would CRUSH Mephisto in or out of his realm.
Originally posted by leonidasI thought SS just 'overpowered' mephisto's atempts to take his oul or corrupt him. it is true that he fluctuates wildly, but it is also true he feigns weakness whenever it suits his pabyrintic plans and is known to put on idiotic shows for otherss
ss also overpowered mephisto in his realm. another time ss was shown to be quite below mephisto in hell. mephisto is simply a bizarre character with high and low showings in hell. ss has also dealt with and defeated the soul gem. with it, adam warlock pwnd mephisto in hell. again, he's got good and bad showings. i'd say g having to resort devouring hell to beat him is NOT the best thing to bring up when talking about galactus's power. 😬
Originally posted by 753
I thought SS just 'overpowered' mephisto's atempts to take his oul or corrupt him. it is true that he fluctuates wildly, but it is also true he feigns weakness whenever it suits his pabyrintic plans and is known to put on idiotic shows for otherss
nah, h2h ss actually drove mephisto to his knees. and i knoiw he, at times, feigns weakness, but that seems a touch.... convenient to me, and i've been hearing it a lot lately when mephisto's name comes up. he's just rather inconsisent. reminds me a little of the stranger in that sense. his uber showings are great, but they get muddled with his lesser ones. i like the character, always have, just really hard to say with any substance what his TRUE level is.
Originally posted by zopzop
a) Thanos went to Galactus with the intention to talk but Galactus ignored him. Thanos wasn't looking for a fight. Thanos knocked Galactus off his feet and sent him flying clear across the planet/moon/ship. Thanos couldn't even budge Odin.b) Nope, he didn't. Adam even commented on how an Asgardian soul isn't like a mortal soul and is fortified against the Soul Gem's attack.
c)...
d) Yes he was about to own "hell" but that's only because Mephisto fought him to a stalemate. Same as what Thor did. Fought Mephisto to a stalemate. Odin would CRUSH Mephisto in or out of his realm.
What does thanos knocking Galactus off his feet have any importance on? It was stated the very next panel that the blast did nothing whatsoever except to elicit G's anger. You act as if Thanos gave him a mortal blow. Are you now going to count how many blasts it took for Odin to bring Thanos to his knees?
Yes because the same Mephisto that Thor fought was also written as being powerful enough to shake the firmament as a result of their battle. Clearly that Mephisto==the one Galactus fought. Great logic there.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
What does thanos knocking Galactus off his feet have any importance on? It was stated the very next panel that the blast did nothing whatsoever except to elicit G's anger. You act as if Thanos gave him a mortal blow. Are you now going to count how many blasts it took for Odin to bring Thanos to his knees?Yes because the same Mephisto that Thor fought was also written as being powerful enough to shake the firmament as a result of their battle. Clearly that Mephisto==the one Galactus fought. Great logic there.
a) I know Galactus wasn't hurt. That was stated on panel. The point was, Thanos could NOT budge Odin one bit, but he humiliated Galactus by sending him flying, even knocking his helmet off. Thanos never hurt Odin AND he never humiliated him the way he humiliated Galactus.
Odin wasn't going all out to kill Thanos, if you don't believe me see his other fights with Galaxy busters like Seth and Surtur where he grows in size and lays the smackdown.
b) Did Mephisto not state ON PANEL, that he couldn't beat Thor and they'd stalemate forever, while in Mephisto's own realm? Was this shown on panel? They even called a grudging truce because the battle was pointless.