Odin VS Galactus

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... I don't have to prove a negative. Don't be ridiculous.

The harpy and the thorns that attacked Thor weren't illusions. Like I said, Mephisto utterly slagging Mjolnir and chuckng it back at Thor could possibly be seen as an illusion had everything Mephisto did in that fight be a conjured illusion.

Fact is, Odin was the only illusion. Everything else wasn't. And how exactly would that illusion work anyway? Thor throws it Mephisto, Mephisto makes Mjolnir invisible as he dodges it (since he can't pick it up?), conjures up an illusion, slags it, then reforms it and throws it back conveniently right at the exact moment Mjolnir would be on its return flight?

Give me a break.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes, humiliated :

Thanos wasn't doing ANYTHING to Odin aside from annoying him.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Fact is.....

Fact? FAIL! 😆

You don't have any proof that Mjolnir incident was real especially when he lied not two seconds later with an image of Odin.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
So you place a premium on artistic depiction of a white bald man over comments that the blast did nothing except enrage Galactus? You have some pretty fecal logic if you go by the distance one character moves another as an indicator of durability. That only works for someone like juggernaut.

Remind me again how many shots it took for Odin to even move thanos to a compromised position? Wait don't tell me, Odin wasn't trying his hardest and just wanted to lay waste to asgard with his fruitless blasts while Thanos kept going at him again and again and again and again. Odin pulled out gungir because he wasn't trying. Right.

Again your simplistic logic. You're going to tell me that Odin "growing in size and lays the smackdown" against Seth and Surtur is an indicator of Odin holding back against Thanos, while simultaneously excreting the logic that mephisto "growing in size" and shaking the biblical heavens in his battle with Galactus indicates that Mephisto<<<Thor?

I can't imagine how you don't laugh at your own posts. The two Odins you just compared were written by different writers. The two Mephistos you just compared were written by different writers.

Stop arguing with yourself and apply your logic uniformly.

Thanos blasted Galactus off his feet and clear across a planet/moon/whaterver and knocked his helmet off, leaving him a smoldering mess. The fact that it didn't hurt Galactus is meaningless since Thanos likewise didn't hurt Odin but NEVER humiliated him in such a fashion.

Now can you show me scans of Mephisto beating Thor, in or out of his realm? Because the best he did was stalemate. Otherwise STFU and move on with your BS.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you are calling Odin a liar ?

No, I'm calling Odin lazy. Because we've all seen what happens when he gets serious in a fight.

Originally posted by zopzop
No, I'm calling Odin lazy. Because we've all seen what happens when he gets serious in a fight.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos blasted Galactus off his feet and clear across a planet/moon/whaterver and knocked his helmet off, leaving him a smoldering mess. The fact that it didn't hurt Galactus is meaningless since Thanos likewise didn't hurt Odin but NEVER humiliated him in such a fashion.

Now can you show me scans of Mephisto beating Thor, in or out of his realm? Because the best he did was stalemate. Otherwise STFU and move on with your BS.

Originally posted by 753
even if we were to take this bullshit at facevalue zopzop, all this would demonstrate is that odin is better at bracing himself than Galactus while G's energy output>>>>>>Odin's.

Galactus was out for blood after Thanos humiliated him. He even expended huge amounts of energy to get through Thanos' shields. Thanos didn't go there looking for a fight but to get his attention and stop him endangering the universe.

It's also true that Thanos didn't go looking for a fight with Odin and the situation was far less dire. From Thanos' perspective, Thor was already subdued and definitely not a universal level threat. From Odin's perspective, Thor was subdued but unharmed, at worst he was their (Thanos and crews) prisoner.

Odin NEVER really poured it on vs Thanos like Galactus did because Thanos was no danger to Odin at all. Thanos never humiliated Odin like he did Galactus. Thanos had Thor as his prisoner but Thor was unharmed. If anything Odin was teaching Thanos a lesson in manners.

@@Zopzop

Odin admitted on panel he was trying to kill Thanos. He failed despite trying and then stopping when he was interrupted. Everything I argue is on panel whereas you make up your own theories regarding Odin's mindset and temperament.

Originally posted by zopzop
Fact? FAIL!

You don't have any proof that Mjolnir incident was real especially when he lied not two seconds later with an image of Odin.

It's obvious you want everything that depicted Thor as an inferior to be fake and on the flipside, have flimsy words aggrandizing Thor to be genuine. Your assertions are worthless and baseless.

^I have to agree. Odin was impressed with Thanos, first he saw him like the rest, like an insect that can't take a beating but then he saw that he can tank some damage und got serious. It was a very good durability feat from Thanos.

Odin would have won in the end imho.

Even in the superman vs thanos thread, nearly a third of people gave the majority to supes.

When 92% of a threads respondents vote one way, that is probably a sign that the thread is spite and should be closed.

Originally posted by rotiart
Let's make a poll and end the argument once and for all. Galactus takes on Odin.

No gear for either means non gungir, odinsword, or destroyer armor etc. For Odin.
No worldship, ultimate nullifier etc for galactus.

Galactus wins with no world ship, UN etc vs. Odin with Destroyer armor, gungir, and Odinsword.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos blasted Galactus off his feet and clear across a planet/moon/whaterver and knocked his helmet off, leaving him a smoldering mess. The fact that it didn't hurt Galactus is meaningless since Thanos likewise didn't hurt Odin but NEVER humiliated him in such a fashion.

Now can you show me scans of Mephisto beating Thor, in or out of his realm? Because the best he did was stalemate. Otherwise STFU and move on with your BS.

First of all don't ever tell anyone to STFU on this forum. You are one of the worst posters on this board with one of the most horrendous logic I have ever seen. I don't even remember the last time someone elicited so many posts rebuking worthless logic. You've got a talent for it and can't even respond with anything since you're too busy being bent over by everyone else in this thread.

I don't have to show you shit except for your inept debate tactics. Keep cherry picking feats and ignoring context and portrayals by other writers. Someone's made himself into the new kmc whipping boy

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
First of all don't ever tell anyone to STFU on this forum. You are one of the worst posters on this board with one of the most horrendous logic I have ever seen. I don't even remember the last time someone elicited so many posts rebuking worthless logic. You've got a talent for it and can't even respond with anything since you're too busy being bent over by everyone else in this thread.

I don't have to show you shit except for your inept debate tactics. Keep cherry picking feats and ignoring context and portrayals by other writers. Someone's made himself into the new kmc whipping boy

Translation :
I can't produce scans to backup my reasoning and I'm just going to pout like a child.

You can't produce ANY scans of Mephisto beating Thor in or out of his realm, they fought to a draw and both admitted it would have been an eternal stalemate (I even provided the scans). Yet we have scans of Galactus resorting to devouring Mephisto's realm because like Thor, it was a stalemate.

Odin > Thor. If Thor fought Mephisto to a standstill, Odin would absolutely crush him. Thor performed as well as Galactus vs Mephisto in his own realm till Galactus got tired of the stalemate and attempted to devour Mephisto's hell.

This is all on panel. It's not my opinion. You just don't like it because of how YOU think the fights should have gone down. That's not my problem, it's your problem.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'll not validate this nonsense any further by holding your hands on how to effect reading interpretation and apply the rules of proof. Trying to reinforce a negative proof fallacy with an association fallacy (poorly done btw) hasn't improved your position at all.

It's obvious you want everything that depicted Thor as an inferior to be fake and on the flipside, have flimsy words aggrandizing Thor to be genuine. Your assertions are worthless and baseless.

Let me get this straight, we have a skyfather level artifact that has absorbed galaxy busting attacks, shattered Celestial armor, defied other Skyfathers attempts to overcome it's enchantments, and is backed by the most powerful active Skyfather in Marvel vs a guy that uses illusions and lies to confuse his opponents and during the very issue where he claimed to have reduced the hammer to pudding also lied about summoning a skyfather's spirit (literally the very next thing he did after "reducing the hammer to pudding" was summoning "Odin" to confront Thor).

My money is on it's an illusion. This assumption is no less valid then your assumption that Mephisto actually reduced the hammer to pudding.

What isn't an assumption and backed up with on panel evidence is : neither could defeat the other and the fight (even in Mephisto's realm) would be an eternal stalemate.

^ Mephisto didn't claim anything. He did it.

Mephisto has curbstomped teams of heroes. Mephisto took on Galactus straight up in his realm. Retconned the 616 universe.

Making Thor and Mjolnir's enchantment look trite in the face of his evil was as simple as he made it look.

Like I said, your negative proof fallacies aren't reinforced with association fallacies. Find a better argument or deal with it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Mephisto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thor.

Mephisto's been defeated by characters on Thor's level,. hasn't he?

I know Surfer did it, in his own realm, and he's not >>>>>> then Thor.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Mephisto didn't claim anything. He did it.

Mephisto has curbstomped teams of heroes. Mephisto took on Galactus straight up in his realm. Retconned the 616 universe.

Making Thor and Mjolnir's enchantment look trite in the face of his evil was as simple as he made it look.

Like I said, your negative proof fallacies aren't reinforced with association fallacies. Find a better argument or deal with it.

Why? He literally LIED TO THOR'S FACE and produced the "spirit" of his father and claimed it was the real Odin, RIGHT AFTER he "reduced Mjolnir to pudding". My argument is just fine.

Plus I produced scans stating that Mephisto could NOT BEAT THOR even in Mephisto's own realm. This isn't my opinion, this is stated on panel.

Originally posted by cdtm
Mephisto's been defeated by characters on Thor's level,. hasn't he?

I know Surfer did it, in his own realm, and he's not >>>>>> then Thor.

Context.

Mephisto vs the Silver Surfer comes down to Mephisto NOT wanting to kill Surfer but break him, so he can lay claim to his soul. For all Surfer's power, he's still a mortal. On panel Mephisto claimed he could crush the Surfer whenever he wants but doesn't want to because he wants his soul. Then he proved it by kicking his @$$ and it took Galactus to save Surfer and Nova.

Basically the only thing that saves Surfer from Mephisto, is the Surfer's "pure soul" garbage.

Thor is a GOD. Big difference. Mephisto stated on panel that he could not beat Thor, even within Mephisto's own realm. Sure Thor wouldn't win either, but he wouldn't lose. The fight would go on for eternity.