Silver Surfer & Thanos vs Flash & Zoom

Started by Galan00720 pages

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Originally posted by Silent Master
And lasers move at the speed of light, yet every street levvel character has dodged them. welcome to comics.
You mean aim dodged them. welcome to comics.

Originally posted by Galan007
So you've personally asked hundreds of people if they know how fast light travels? Come on naw. srsly

Never said such, but through my regular interaction with them, I have a pretty good idea of the topics which they are knowledgeable on and those they arent.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, maybe the narration was correct regarding his speed and incorrect in regards to the time/distance/number of people.
Nope because to save 2 people flash had to be going at least thrice the speed of light.

Originally posted by h1a8
You mean aim dodged them. welcome to comics.

Them aim dodging the lasers is an excuse that fans came up wtih...it hasn't been stated in the comics.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope because to save 2 people flash had to be going at least thrice the speed of light.

Or the writer was wrong about when the Flash started saving people.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ ... superheated air and radioactive fallout (irradiated dust) is what really kills people. Not radiation waves.

Even if you can't understand that... just think about Flash safely setting people down 35 miles away from the blast. Safely. 35 miles away.

They're safe. Only 35 miles away.

Whereas this "killer light speed radiation" would travel 186,000 miles/sec. Think about it.

False. Fallout kills people on the outer perimeter of the bomb. High doses of radiation kills instantly (within a several mile radius) if it comes in contact with humans.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Or the writer was wrong about when the Flash started saving people.
Nope, that will take away from the feat and give flash a new power (future vision).

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope, that will take away from the feat and give flash a new power (future vision).

How would it taking longer take away from the feat, when the feat is Flash saving them by going just under the speed of light?

Originally posted by h1a8
False. Fallout kills people on the outer perimeter of the bomb. High doses of radiation kills instantly (within a several mile radius) if it comes in contact with humans.
Superheated air kills "instantly." And it doesn't expand at light speeds. Knock it off.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Them aim dodging the lasers is an excuse that fans came up wtih...it hasn't been stated in the comics.
It's been stated in Elektra and Daredevil comics though.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Right, the writer told us how fast the Flash was going.
No, he didn't. That was all a ploy. He wanted people to ignore that, take only the other numbers for granted, and calculate a speed in excess of trillions of times that which was stated.

That's because we comics fans are smart and not so easily fooled.

Originally posted by leonidas
i think comparing knowledge of a galaxy with a picosecond is not exactly a fair comparison. you think most people actually know that galaxies galaxies can range in size from 100 000s-1000 000s of lightyears in diameter?? that galaxies are 1000 000s of lightyears apart? man, again, you must hang around with a lot of REALLY REALLY smart people....

i'd say most know they are really big, and that destroying them=LOTS of power. why SHOULD they need to know more than that?

So you are assuming the average reader is rather stupid, and that the writer himself also has no comprehension of the verbage he's putting into a comic? That's thin, imo. If the average writer is THIS handicapped, then why would he bother to make such specific differentiations? Supersonic, as opposed to FTL- both are really fast after all? Galaxies, as opposed to universes- both are really vast after all? 10,000lbs, as opposed to 1,000,000lbs- both are really heavy after all?

It seems like you're suggesting that any 'extreme' word in a comic, is used by the writer for the sole purpose of making the feat in question sound better- not because he has any knowledge on what the terminology literally means. Additionally, it seems like you're also assuming that the average readers are unable to comprehend that terminology in the literal sense either.

I disagree with that completely, but to each his own. 🙂

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's been stated in Elektra and Daredevil comics though.

Was the explanation used for all examples, or were they just taking about how they do it?

just pulled out a book an x-men book--it's about 5yrs old though--to scan the ads because i was curious about this question of audience and what they can be expected to know. anyway, here's what was inside:

--skiddles ad on inside front
--simpsons video game
--kool-aid
--marvel games
--subscription for comics
--nerds
--overpower card game
--spree candy on back cover

now, i'm not sure exactly who is reading them, but advertisers certainly are paying to MISS their mark. 😬

^ That's X-Men, though. Only retards read that shit. I'm surprised the actual comic wasn't written in crayon. sneer

the narration stated the weapon to be low yield

Originally posted by Galan007
So you are assuming the average reader is rather stupid, and that the writer himself also has no comprehension of the verbage he's putting into a comic?
Trick question?

Maybe. excellent

Originally posted by Galan007
Maybe. excellent
Good, because the average reader is retarded, and writers have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to lesser known shit most of the time.

My evidence is this forum

Originally posted by Galan007
So you are assuming the average reader is rather stupid,

again, why stupid? you really think someone who doesn't know which is shorter an attosecond or a picosecond is, is stupid? or that someoen on the street who doesn't know the speed of light is stupid? man, i know an awful lot of stupid people...

and that the writer himself also has no comprehension of the verbage he's putting into a comic?

never said no comrehension. and i'd say different writers have better understandings than others. but detailed knowledge? probably not. no real reason for them to know more than the basics.

That's thin, imo. If the average writer is THIS handicapped, then why would he bother to make such specific differentiations? Supersonic, as opposed to FTL- both are really fast after all? Galaxies, as opposed to universes- both are really vast after all? 10,000lbs, as opposed to 1,000,000lbs- both are really heavy after all?

again, your comparing a much more general knowledge (yes, most know a galaxy is smaller than a universe, that 1000 000>10 000, that a meter is bigger than a centimeter) with FAR more presice knowledge (atto vs picosecond). the comparisons STILL aren't fair partner. 😬

It seems like you're suggesting that any 'extreme' word in a comic is used by the writer for the sole purpose of making the feat in question sound better- not because he actually has any knowledge on what the terminology literally means. Additionally, it seems like you're assuming that the readers don't comprehend that terminology in the literal sense either.

to the former, i think that is certainly part of it. there will be some basic knowledge, clearly (otherwise they wouldn't even KNOW a zeptosecond) but i really doubt there is much more than that which goes into it. for the latter, i would say this would very much be the case. honestly, if you truly think that most readers not only know what exactly an attosecond is, and beyond that, know the order of magnitude it represents, wellll........ i got nothing for you and we are oceans apart on this issue. shrug

I disagree with that completely, but to each his own. 🙂

👆

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Good, because the average reader is retarded, and writers have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to lesser known shit most of the time.

My evidence is this forum