Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Oh, god, it's so artificial. The pumpkins are even plastic.
You missed this part:
"I do not care that she did it for show. She still did it."
If you did not know, an adult pretending to care and serving others is better than an adult that does not care and does not do for others. I would rather have a disingenuous effort to serve be put forth than no effort to be put forth…mostly because that’s how the vast majority of things are done in our society. Do you REALLY want the other person to “go first” at the four way stop? Or are you just being nice? Sure, it is most likely disingenuous, but it is a nice thing to do and polite. I would rather you do that than do nothing at all or show you care nothing about those around you. If you cannot even fake being nice, then you’re just a crotchety, mean, jerk. Despite some standup comedians’ words, it’s not really cool to be “mean”: you’re just being a jerk.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
When did saying moms are awesome become "politically incorrect"?
Saying that I find her "momness" in serving all the others there IS sexist. When did it become the responsibility to ensure everyone in the "tribal meeting" is properly fed? Didn't that go out of the window many many years ago? The men are perfectly capable of doing the same thing she did, for themselves.
I just like it when people serve others...but me liking that could seem sexist because it appears I like it due to the "momness" of it.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/2783-Correctitude (this guy summarizes all of my feelings on political correctness in one video)
This is where you missed the point entirely and strawmanned my point, yet again.
It is like you lack the ability to actually get anyone's point, at all...and instead, have this mind machine the processes concepts of others and spits out some mutant form of a strawman. Then you run with it as though it were even a valid response. You should turn off that strawman machine and actually realize that there is context to be understood in other's posts: not your initial reaction to their post.
Here's a hint on when you're strawmanning: if you are taking the person's point to be something negative instead of one of a dozen other ways in which it could be seen as positive, then you probably have it either slightly wrong or horribly wrong.
For example, in this particular portion of my post, you missed the point about why it may be politically incorrect to find a mom, acting like a stereotypical mom, serving a table filled with ONLY men to be both sexist and the embodiment of the sexist "mommy" gender role (read: nurturer). I finding it awesome that she is serving the others can be incorrectly taken to be "politically incorrect" via the "mom actions" she is taking. I pointed out both in my post. Sure, they are not spelled out for you in simplistic grade-school terms, but the meaning is quite clearly there.
So why would I feel the need to say "***k political correctness" and "moms are awesome"? Maybe it's because I admire her actions, even if they are superficial, for reasons other than the superficial reading in my post?
Oh, right...I said this already, earlier, in my post:
"It would have been impressive if any of them did that for each other."
Now why would I say that? Oh, right, I said this in this post just earlier:
"I just like it when people serve others..."
So when I say "***k political correctness" it is not because I am making a politically incorrect statement OR saying something that is just mean. It's because I had already outlined why I liked her actions and why that could be misconstrued by another (read: idiot) for it being sexist. And thus we are full circle how your use of my “misuse” of “politically correct” is not only wrong, it was a silly strawman attempt on your part, yet again.
Summary: I pointed out why it could be taken as “mom” actions. The labeling it as “mom” actions can be the politically incorrect statement in the post; however, I did outline that I would have found it awesome if any of the others did the same, contradicting the almost implicit point that I uphold her actions as awesome specifically because she’s a woman and a mom.